Home Schooled Girl Can't Prove She's an American – or Even Exists

[mongers]

Well, proving she exists isn't hard. I see no reason to question her version of events for the purposes of fitting her into society. There's no compelling reason to doubt them unless we suspect she's some kind of deep cover foreign operative or terrorist.

Yes, I think we should err on the generous side and let her get on with fulfilling her life's potential, something her parents seemed dead set against.

[The Minsky Moment]

In Ide's America, her entire life would be documented from the point of conception(which a skeevy technician probably has bookmarked for frequent reviewing).

It's custodes all the way down.

[The Minsky Moment]

Well, proving she exists isn't hard. I see no reason to question her version of events for the purposes of fitting her into society. There's no compelling reason to doubt them unless we suspect she's some kind of deep cover foreign operative or terrorist.

The legal system is capable of acting quickly.  It is also capable of acting with common sense.

But asking for both in the same case is pushing it.

[CountDeMoney]

I don't know if she's going to wind up as an American, but she's well on her way to becoming Mrs. Anger.

[Ed Anger]

Never trust a girl named Alicia. Or whatever bastardized version she has.

[DGuller]

We can't prove DG is American either.

I'm all natural.

[Ideologue]

In Ide's America, her entire life would be documented from the point of conception(which a skeevy technician probably has bookmarked for frequent reviewing).

It's custodes all the way down.

Stop supporting the disappearing of people.  It'd gone into a hard drive.  Those files would now be retrieved by plaintiff's counsel, proving her citizenship and that her parents abused her.  Then they'd be shot for their crimes, which are, after all, incredibly severe.

Of course, in Ide's America, they'd probably have had her taken away from them like seventeen years ago, so such harsh punishments may well have been avoided.

[Martinus]

Well, proving she exists isn't hard. I see no reason to question her version of events for the purposes of fitting her into society. There's no compelling reason to doubt them unless we suspect she's some kind of deep cover foreign operative or terrorist.

Is it because she is white? What if she looked, say, Latino? What if 10,000 Latino children showed up in Texas, saying that they just escaped from a cult and were American citizens?

[Martinus]

Never trust a girl named Alicia. Or whatever bastardized version she has.

Maybe she spent all those years in the Wenderland? 

[The Brain]

Well, proving she exists isn't hard. I see no reason to question her version of events for the purposes of fitting her into society. There's no compelling reason to doubt them unless we suspect she's some kind of deep cover foreign operative or terrorist.

Is it because she is white? What if she looked, say, Latino? What if 10,000 Latino children showed up in Texas, saying that they just escaped from a cult and were American citizens?

Citizenship for all, obviously. It's a bit offensive that you would suggest otherwise.

Edit: ooh and some joke about Ed's south-of-the-border family.

[Martinus]

Well, I agree, obviously.

I was just wondering if others (who advocate for her to be recognised as a citizen) would also answer affirmatively to my question. Otherwise, you end up encouraging the state to apply law unequally to similar cases, which is against any standards of a modern democratic state.

[dps]

The article says that she left her parents with the help of her grandparents.  Presumably, those grandparents should be able to testify as to her existence, and her status as an American.   I'm not exactly sure that would be enough, legally, but it's a start.

And I suspect that she needs to get into the Federal courts, and not fool around with the Texas courts.

[Valmy]

And I suspect that she needs to get into the Federal courts, and not fool around with the Texas courts.

Why do you figure?  Don't the Feds need a birth certificate?

Is it because she is white? What if she looked, say, Latino? What if 10,000 Latino children showed up in Texas, saying that they just escaped from a cult and were American citizens?

Well then we would murder them all systematically being the evil racists that we are. 

[Valmy]

Well, I agree, obviously.

I was just wondering if others (who advocate for her to be recognised as a citizen) would also answer affirmatively to my question. Otherwise, you end up encouraging the state to apply law unequally to similar cases, which is against any standards of a modern democratic state.

Well I have no idea what she looks like so...

A cult that had over 10,000 children all pouring out as young adults at the same time would probably be 100,000 strong or more.  Pretty sure even we are smart enough to detect a cult that large.  Confirmation they were all born in the US could be easily ascertained.

[garbon]

Glad to see Marti can still demolish his own strawmen.