Plot thickens in Argentina

[derspiess]

What I can't get my mind around is how inept the old hag is at spinning this thing.  You tacitly deny any involvement and then stonewall by saying you want the investigation to run its course without your interference.

My mother in law is so fed up with things she wants to move up here.  GODDAMN YOU CRISTINA

[Ed Anger]

What I can't get my mind around is how inept the old hag is at spinning this thing.  You tacitly deny any involvement and then stonewall by saying you want the investigation to run its course without your interference.

My mother in law is so fed up with things she wants to move up here.  GODDAMN YOU CRISTINA

You are gonna have a pack of beaners all up in your shit.

[derspiess]

Having a free babysitter on demand would be nice.  Having someone arbitrarily move my furniture around and 'organize' my stuff, not so much.

[Sheilbh]

They would have to be really dumb to assassinate a prosecutor.

That's what Kirchner says. She says it's a conspiracy to tarnish her government.

Not much left to tarnish in that government.

You'd be surprised:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-04/argentine-president-s-tweet-mimics-chinese-during-official-visit

(Bloomberg) -- Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner mimicked the Chinese accent in a tweet, replacing r's with l's, as she met with Chinese President Xi Jinping during a visit to raise investment in the recession-hit South American economy.

"Did they only come for lice and petloleum," Fernandez wrote in Spanish on her Twitter account. A minute later, she wrote "sorry, the levels of ridiculousness and absurdity are so high they can only be digested with humor."

[Ed Anger]

I hope she enjoys those ratty old Su-24's the Russians are gonna trade for beef.

[Siege]

Apparently Alberto Nisman had drafted a warrant of arrest for both Kirchner and her foreign minister Timerman, accusing them of trying to shield Iranian officials from the bombing of the Jewish centre in 1994.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/04/world/americas/argentina-prosecutor-alberto-nisman-arrest-warrant-cristina-de-kirchner.html?

You lazy fuck, copy and paste the article here in languish like everybody else does.
Jacob and Viper are always doing the same shit.
I aint going to click in that link!!!

[The Minsky Moment]

Siege is afraid to click on a NYT link; he could get infected by facts.

[Siege]

What I can't get my mind around is how inept the old hag is at spinning this thing.  You tacitly deny any involvement and then stonewall by saying you want the investigation to run its course without your interference.

My mother in law is so fed up with things she wants to move up here.  GODDAMN YOU CRISTINA

Since you are the closest thing we got to an argentinian here in Languish, I must ask you this question:
Why the fuck are argentinians so fucking communists?
I mean, no disrespect, but I have never come across an argentinian that is into personal and social freedoms, free market economy, and small goverment.
The all claim that those little "neo-liberal reforms" they did, which of course were designed to fail, are proof free market economy does not work. They all want Big Brother to feed them and roof them, with no effort from their part.

[The Larch]

Blame Perón.

[Siege]

Siege is afraid to click on a NYT link; he could get infected by facts.

Dude, the NYT is infamous for getting facts wrong.

[The Minsky Moment]

Siege is afraid to click on a NYT link; he could get infected by facts.

Dude, the NYT is infamous for getting facts wrong.

Can't argue with the expert . . .

[Valmy]

I mean, no disrespect, but I have never come across an argentinian that is into personal and social freedoms, free market economy, and small goverment.
The all claim that those little "neo-liberal reforms" they did, which of course were designed to fail, are proof free market economy does not work. They all want Big Brother to feed them and roof them, with no effort from their part.

Because of the culture of corruption amongst the elites.  The people just want in on the action.

There are very few countries in the world where personal and social freedoms, free market economy, and small government really are a thing.

[Admiral Yi]

Because of the culture of corruption amongst the elites.  The people just want in on the action.

I don't think Argentina ranks particularly high on corruption ratings.  It seems as a general rule you either need large scale resource extraction (such as in Nigeria) or a stifling bureaucracy (such as in India) to breed world-class corruption.

I think the explanation lies instead with the immigration to Argentina of a politicized urban working class at a time when Argentina was a wealthy country, and could afford, at least for a short time, to buy their support with wealth transfers from the very productive agricultural sector.

[derspiess]

Since you are the closest thing we got to an argentinian here in Languish, I must ask you this question:
Why the fuck are argentinians so fucking communists?
I mean, no disrespect, but I have never come across an argentinian that is into personal and social freedoms, free market economy, and small goverment.

Where have you run into these Argentines?  With maybe a couple exceptions, all the ones I know are into all of that.  Particularly those who have come to the US, all of which are college educated and have high-paying jobs. 

My wife's family and their friends are all middle to upper class, and with the exception of my wife's best friend from college none of them vote Peronist.

The all claim that those little "neo-liberal reforms" they did, which of course were designed to fail, are proof free market economy does not work. They all want Big Brother to feed them and roof them, with no effort from their part.

That sounds like the lower class (and nouveau-riche) left-Peronist type, which I don't have any direct experience with.  Sadly, they have been winning elections in the past decade.  Leftist populism has certainly wrought its fair share of havoc on the economy, and everyone I know seems to recognize that. 

Argentine politcs is a mess.  Your two main choices traditionally have been the Radicals (Social Democrats) and Peronists (Populism cranked up to 11).  There is a relatively small center-right party I support called PRO (Propuesta Republicana) which has scored some good local electoral wins but needs some help succeeding in national elections.

With the Peronists shifting decisively to the left in the past decade, some of the right-wing Peronists have splintered off into their own de facto party.  My hope is that somehow in this year's election those dissidents can form some sort of alliance/front with PRO and kick the left-Peronists out of power.  Even a win by the non-Peronist left bloc would be a positive.

[Admiral Yi]

I looked up Argentina in the Transparency International Index, and they came in 106th (Mexico was 103rd as a comparitor), so pretty corrupt.