Christie clarifies comments on measles vaccine, calls for ‘balance’

[derspiess]

Are you seriously questioning Jenny McCarthy??

Not those titties, no.

Fake

[11B4V]

Are you seriously questioning Jenny McCarthy??

Not those titties, no.

Fake

Who cares. 

[DontSayBanana]

Who cares. 

I prefer that my dick be at least harder than the girl's hair and breasts.

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

The "being pure" concept is what's driving a lot of the anti-vaccine movement in North America.  That's why I think you see so many, sometimes rational, Whole Foods shopping, organic eating, exclusively breastfeeding and co-sleeping parents not buying into vaccines.  The diseases we vaccine for are far enough in the past for newer parents not to know the experience first hand and their natural purity mentality is strong enough to cause them to be stupid.

http://www.skepticalob.com/2015/01/what-everyone-gets-wrong-about-anti-vaccine-parents.html

[Jacob]

  Vaccines can, and do, screw kids up.  The issue of one of risk/reward, not "Cal is absolutely right and Rand is absolutely wrong."  Rand, it turns out, is more right than you!

They can and do?

What sort of adverse reactions are we talking about, and how frequent are they? How is this documented?

[Jacob]

Meanwhile, Dr. Ben Carson - another potential GOP candidate - has weighed in:

"Although I strongly believe in individual rights and the rights of parents to raise their children as they see fit, I also recognize that public health and public safety are extremely important in our society," Carson told The Hill in a statement.

"Certain communicable diseases have been largely eradicated by immunization policies in this country and we should not allow those diseases to return by foregoing safe immunization programs, for philosophical, religious or other reasons when we have the means to eradicate them," he added.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/dr-ben-carson-weighs-in-on-the-vaccination-debate/

[garbon]

  Vaccines can, and do, screw kids up.  The issue of one of risk/reward, not "Cal is absolutely right and Rand is absolutely wrong."  Rand, it turns out, is more right than you!

They can and do?

What sort of adverse reactions are we talking about, and how frequent are they? How is this documented?

https://vaers.hhs.gov/index

http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/adverseeffects.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/safety/

[grumbler]

They can and do?

What sort of adverse reactions are we talking about, and how frequent are they? How is this documented?

there is this outfit called "The Centers for Disease Prevention and Control" (run by the US government, so you may not trust it, but that's for you to decide) that notes, on their web page about vaccinations, that

However, as with any medical procedure, vaccination has some risks as well as substantial, proven benefits. Individuals react differently to vaccines, and there is no way to absolutely predict the reaction of a specific individual to a particular vaccine. Anyone who takes a vaccine should be fully informed about both the benefits and the risks of vaccination. Any questions or concerns should be discussed with a physician or other health care provider.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/safety/

So, yes, they can, and do. 

As for what the potential adverse side effects are, a quick search using this service called "Google search" led me, again, to the CDC web site: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/side-effects.htm  The potential side effects, and risk estimates, are listed there.

If you can train yourself to follow the science instead of the hype, you can find these things out without me having to tell you.

[garbon]

If you can train yourself to follow the science instead of the hype, you can find these things out without me having to tell you.

No real need to be a dick about, imo. :shrugs:

[Razgovory]

  Vaccines can, and do, screw kids up.  The issue of one of risk/reward, not "Cal is absolutely right and Rand is absolutely wrong."  Rand, it turns out, is more right than you!

They can and do?

What sort of adverse reactions are we talking about, and how frequent are they? How is this documented?

https://vaers.hhs.gov/index

http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/adverseeffects.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/safety/

http://zombo.com/

[grumbler]

If you can train yourself to follow the science instead of the hype, you can find these things out without me having to tell you.

No real need to be a dick about, imo. :shrugs:

True.  Except that its fun to be a dick about things when people go all faux-wide-eyed about a topic.

[11B4V]

If you can train yourself to follow the science instead of the hype, you can find these things out without me having to tell you.

No real need to be a dick about, imo. :shrugs:

It's easier to be a dick to someone over the net, rather than face to face.

[Jacob]

If you can train yourself to follow the science instead of the hype, you can find these things out without me having to tell you.

Why would I do that when it is such a pleasure to converse with you?

[DGuller]

If you can train yourself to follow the science instead of the hype, you can find these things out without me having to tell you.

Why would I do that when it is such a pleasure to converse with you?

[Jacob]

True.  Except that its fun to be a dick about things when people go all faux-wide-eyed about a topic.

There was nothing faux about it. I haven't spent much time looking into and evaluating the potential negative effects of vaccines.