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May 2015 UK General Election Campaign.

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The Larch

Quote from: alfred russel on May 08, 2015, 01:55:42 PM
Quote from: Maladict on May 08, 2015, 04:10:43 AM
Miliband to resign, according to BBC sources.

Milliband, farange, clegg...odd all these "leaders" just quit without trying even to form a coalition.

They have nothing in common except not being tories.

derspiess

Quote from: alfred russel on May 08, 2015, 01:55:42 PM
Milliband, farange, clegg...odd all these "leaders" just quit without trying even to form a coalition.

I thought the Tories got an outright majority :huh:
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: The Larch on May 08, 2015, 01:59:19 PM
They have nothing in common except not being tories.

They all have names that sound made up.

Warspite

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The Scots are not a distinct ethnic group

:huh:
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Valmy

Yeah no coalitions this time. David Cameron rules supreme.

What do the Northern Irish parties do? Just hang out? Are they affiliated with one of the British parties?
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Valmy

Quote from: Warspite on May 08, 2015, 03:18:40 PM
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The Scots are not a distinct ethnic group

:huh:

Like most UK people they are not so much an ethnicity as a accent.
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Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on May 08, 2015, 03:22:55 PM
Yeah no coalitions this time. David Cameron rules supreme.

What do the Northern Irish parties do? Just hang out? Are they affiliated with one of the British parties?

Yeah, I don't get why there are still separate NI parties.  I mean peace now reigns, devolution has occurred - other than Sinn Fein why not start supporting the "regular" UK parties?

As for Sinn Fein - since they have signed on to the Good Friday accords and support the current governmental structure (albeit with the long-term goal of having NI join Ireland) why do they continue to boycott their seats?  Surely they would have more influence if they actually sat as MPs?
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Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Valmy on May 08, 2015, 03:23:41 PM
Quote from: Warspite on May 08, 2015, 03:18:40 PM
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The Scots are not a distinct ethnic group

:huh:

Like most UK people they are not so much an ethnicity as a accent.

such a mindset is not going to keep the Union together.

derspiess

Quote from: Barrister on May 08, 2015, 03:35:03 PM
As for Sinn Fein - since they have signed on to the Good Friday accords and support the current governmental structure (albeit with the long-term goal of having NI join Ireland) why do they continue to boycott their seats?  Surely they would have more influence if they actually sat as MPs?

Yep.  Their famine is over.  Why don't they go home??

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Admiral Yi

Lib Dems should cede control to the AI and exit the game.

Josquius

Quote from: Warspite on May 08, 2015, 03:18:40 PM
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The Scots are not a distinct ethnic group

:huh:
:huh: what?
There's far more of a difference culturally between someone from northern and southern England than between Scotland and northern England.
Not to mention the central belt vs. The northern isles.

Scotland being so different is greatly exaggerated by the habit of they and the world taking England to mean the south.
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alfred russel

Quote from: derspiess on May 08, 2015, 02:00:19 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 08, 2015, 01:55:42 PM
Milliband, farange, clegg...odd all these "leaders" just quit without trying even to form a coalition.

I thought the Tories got an outright majority :huh:

I was trying to be funny. Probably should stop trying (before the election results came in, and people were predicting Cameron to be PM because the Tories would have the most seats, I was suggesting there could be a coalition against him).
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dps

Quote from: Warspite on May 08, 2015, 01:09:37 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 08, 2015, 11:31:46 AM


Lots of places in many nations have divergent political opinions. That means nothing. In fact it is expected. A country should have divergent polities and local interests.

'Diverged from the UK' does not mean the usual differences between competing parties, it means that the kind of state the Scottish are voting for is markedly different from the kind of state the English are voting for. And "English" and "Scottish" is extremely important here; this is not a US-style culture war where there is a bitter contest between parties who want to control the same political centre. This is becoming a bitter contest where a large number of people in one distinct ethnic group want to leave the country entirely.

That it not like a lot of places - not in the Western world, at least.


I hesitate to say this, because I admit that I don't know enough about Scotland to be sure, but it seems to me that the differences between Scotland and England are far less significant than the differences between the slave and free states in the US in 1860.  And we certainly took exception to the idea that the south could just break away and form an new nation if they wanted.