Obama to propose two free years of community college for students

[Admiral Yi]

So what?

Do you mean so what in the sense of fuck private universities and the people that attend them, or so what in the sense that you didn't catch the public university qualifier in the Atlantic piece you linked?

[Admiral Yi]

He should also make everyone's first home and first car free.

Working on it.

President Obama Explains How FHA's 3%-Down Mortgages Are Great For America - Live Feed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymAegF_1aZY


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-17/fhfa-said-to-plan-steps-to-ease-lending-to-riskier-buyers.html

It's deja vu all over again.

[jimmy olsen]

So what?

Do you mean so what in the sense of fuck private universities and the people that attend them, or so what in the sense that you didn't catch the public university qualifier in the Atlantic piece you linked?

There are countries that fund public universities in this way and people are still willing there to pay to go to prestigious private universities. Why would it be different here?

[CountDeMoney]

Just more hating on higher education from the Languish Elite.  And 11Bravo.

I know you're sore, since you had to pay for your first two years of community college.

[dps]

It would also leave private universities very, very expensive Timmy.

So what?

Well, for one thing, the article is comparing apples to oranges.  It claims that it would cost $62.6B to fund undergraduate tuition at public universities for those students currently attending them, compared to $69B the feds currently spend on higher education.  But, that ignores that some of that $69B is going to students who are at private schools, or attending post-graduate schools, and the big fact that even if tuition were free, there are other expenses involved in attending college, so even with free tuition, college still wouldn't be free.   I don't know what the current numbers are, but I know that when I was in school, tuition was less than half of the fees I paid directly to the school.  I lived in a dorm, and the room and board for the dorm was considerably higher just by itself than the tuition was, and there were other fees and such we had to pay when we registered for a semester.     

[CountDeMoney]

Just more hating on higher education from the Languish Elite.  And 11Bravo.

The Languish Elite... that's like a contradiction in terms, innit?

The ones with the hoity-toity edumacations always seem to be the ones that poo-pooh concepts such as this the most.

[Tonitrus]

I would think that the choice between free public university vs. expensive private college might actually force those private colleges to lower tuition or risk losing on-the-fence students to the freebie.

[11B4V]

Just more hating on higher education from the Languish Elite.  And 11Bravo.

The Languish Elite... that's like a contradiction in terms, innit?

The ones with the hoity-toity edumacations always seem to be the ones that poo-pooh concepts such as this the most.

I certainly have a hoity-toity edumacation alright. 

[Admiral Yi]

There are countries that fund public universities in this way and people are still willing there to pay to go to prestigious private universities. Why would it be different here?

Let me see if I've got this straight.  You're in favor of shifting all federal financial aid away from private universities to public universities, and the argument you're putting forward to support this policy is at least some people would still be willing to go to private universities.

Is that right?

[dps]

I would think that the choice between free public university vs. expensive private college might actually force those private colleges to lower tuition or risk losing on-the-fence students to the freebie.

I'm not entirely sure that they'd care. 

Well, no, it's more nuanced than that.  Probably some would care, some wouldn't.  Also keep in mind that a lot of private schools provide financial aid to students above and beyond what the government provides anyway.  If you are from a lower economic background but have the grades to get into an Ivy League school or the like, you might be getting a free ride anyway.

[CountDeMoney]

I certainly have a hoity-toity edumacation alright. 

Hence the "And 11Bravo", Lunchpail Larry.   

[Eddie Teach]

fuck private universities and the people that attend them,

I'm on board.

Anyway, they still have the option to attend a public uni instead.

[Admiral Yi]

I'm on board.

Anyway, they still have the option to attend a public uni instead.

What does this accomplish?

[Eddie Teach]

Gives them a degree that they didn't have to pay for.

[Josephus]

He's finally getting around to do some governing.