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11 dead in French satirical magazine shooting

Started by Brazen, January 07, 2015, 06:49:08 AM

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Monoriu

Quote from: Liep on January 14, 2015, 10:00:27 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 14, 2015, 09:58:13 AM
Do they have an English language version?

Yes, it's out in English and something like 8 other languages too. I don't know if it'll be distributed in America, but you can buy it on ebay!

It is probably not too difficult to BT a free copy. 

Malthus

I wonder if this will translate into a revived circulation, long-term, or if it is a one-time thing.

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Grey Fox

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garbon

Quote from: Monoriu on January 14, 2015, 10:03:33 AM
Quote from: Liep on January 14, 2015, 10:00:27 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 14, 2015, 09:58:13 AM
Do they have an English language version?

Yes, it's out in English and something like 8 other languages too. I don't know if it'll be distributed in America, but you can buy it on ebay!

It is probably not too difficult to BT a free copy. 

I think people are mostly interested in showing their support. Hard to say that you've done that if you pirated it. :D
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Liep

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Jacob

Quote from: Liep on January 14, 2015, 03:51:17 AM
So the only French comedian I've heard about has been arrested for saying: "Je suis Charlie Coulibaly." Dieudonne seems immediately like a douchebag, but arresting him for that comment might give the freedom of speech haters a reason to call France for hypocrites. :hmm:

EDIT: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/12/french-comedian-dieudonne-charlie-coulibaly-prosecutor

... but... but... satire? Free speech?

11B4V

Quote from: Jacob on January 14, 2015, 12:01:10 PM
Quote from: Liep on January 14, 2015, 03:51:17 AM
So the only French comedian I've heard about has been arrested for saying: "Je suis Charlie Coulibaly." Dieudonne seems immediately like a douchebag, but arresting him for that comment might give the freedom of speech haters a reason to call France for hypocrites. :hmm:

EDIT: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/12/french-comedian-dieudonne-charlie-coulibaly-prosecutor

... but... but... satire? Free speech?

So much for free speech. Now Obama has a real reason for not sending Lurch.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

crazy canuck

Quote from: Liep on January 14, 2015, 03:51:17 AM
So the only French comedian I've heard about has been arrested for saying: "Je suis Charlie Coulibaly." Dieudonne seems immediately like a douchebag, but arresting him for that comment might give the freedom of speech haters a reason to call France for hypocrites. :hmm:

EDIT: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/12/french-comedian-dieudonne-charlie-coulibaly-prosecutor

One would think it would be the defenders of free speech who would think this a bit hypocritical.   Freedom of speech haters would likely applaud silencing speech not deemed to be acceptable.

CountDeMoney

Meanwhile, back at the villians' hideout...

QuoteFrosty fatwa: Saudi cleric bans snowmen
Washington Post

Do you want to build a snowman? You'd love to? Well, that's too bad — at least according to Saudi Arabia's Sheikh Mohammed Saleh al-Munajjid, a prominent cleric.

With snow covering the highland areas of Tabuk province in Saudi Arabia, there's not much else to do with the fluffy white stuff other than build snowmen and snow camels.

But with photos of snowpeople and snow camels popping up everywhere, Munajjid made it clear that Islamic teachings strictly prohibit the practice.

Asked whether the unusually snowy winter in Saudi Arabia meant that parents could build snowmen with their children, Munajjid delivered the bad news.

"It is not permitted to make a statue out of snow, even by way of play and fun," Munajjid wrote on his Web site, according to Reuters.

He also pointed out that making images of humans and animals — anything with a "soul" — is strictly off-limits.

"God has given people space to make whatever they want which does not have a soul, including trees, ships, fruits, buildings and so on," he added.

If you think that sounds slightly depressing, you're not alone.

"We have snow for fleeting days, maybe even hours, and there is always someone who wants to rob us of the joy and the fun," wrote a blogger identified by Gulf News as Mishaal. "It seems that the only thing left for us is to sit down and drink coffee."

But Munajjid has his supporters.

"It [building snowmen] is imitating the infidels, it promotes lustiness and eroticism," wrote one person, according to Reuters.

In the wake of the raucous debate on social media sparked by his fatwa, Munajjid weighed in again and walked back his comments — sort of.

On Twitter, Munajjid noted that snow objects can be made, so long as they don't have human or animal features. Specifically, a model with no head and obliterated features is perfectly fine.

"The model should be like the scarecrow with no features sculpted into the face that is used by farmers to scare away birds," he wrote, according to Gulf News. "It could also be similar to some shapes that are used to warn people about roadworks. There is no problem with the shapes that children build since children need to play and to have fun, especially in areas where snowfall is scarce."

And for those who were wondering, the prohibitions also apply to gingerbread men and other human-shaped winter treats.

"The ban, condoned by religious scholars, also covers models of people and animals made of sweets and paste, not just snow, if their facial features are clearly sculpted," Munajjid added. "This means that if the model has no head or the facial features are obliterated, then there is no ban on it."

Sounds like a blast.

11B4V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 14, 2015, 12:14:42 PM
Meanwhile, back at the villians' hideout...

QuoteFrosty fatwa: Saudi cleric bans snowmen
Washington Post

Do you want to build a snowman? You'd love to? Well, that's too bad — at least according to Saudi Arabia's Sheikh Mohammed Saleh al-Munajjid, a prominent cleric.

With snow covering the highland areas of Tabuk province in Saudi Arabia, there's not much else to do with the fluffy white stuff other than build snowmen and snow camels.

But with photos of snowpeople and snow camels popping up everywhere, Munajjid made it clear that Islamic teachings strictly prohibit the practice.

Asked whether the unusually snowy winter in Saudi Arabia meant that parents could build snowmen with their children, Munajjid delivered the bad news.

"It is not permitted to make a statue out of snow, even by way of play and fun," Munajjid wrote on his Web site, according to Reuters.

He also pointed out that making images of humans and animals — anything with a "soul" — is strictly off-limits.

"God has given people space to make whatever they want which does not have a soul, including trees, ships, fruits, buildings and so on," he added.

If you think that sounds slightly depressing, you're not alone.

"We have snow for fleeting days, maybe even hours, and there is always someone who wants to rob us of the joy and the fun," wrote a blogger identified by Gulf News as Mishaal. "It seems that the only thing left for us is to sit down and drink coffee."

But Munajjid has his supporters.

"It [building snowmen] is imitating the infidels, it promotes lustiness and eroticism," wrote one person, according to Reuters.

In the wake of the raucous debate on social media sparked by his fatwa, Munajjid weighed in again and walked back his comments — sort of.

On Twitter, Munajjid noted that snow objects can be made, so long as they don't have human or animal features. Specifically, a model with no head and obliterated features is perfectly fine.

"The model should be like the scarecrow with no features sculpted into the face that is used by farmers to scare away birds," he wrote, according to Gulf News. "It could also be similar to some shapes that are used to warn people about roadworks. There is no problem with the shapes that children build since children need to play and to have fun, especially in areas where snowfall is scarce."

And for those who were wondering, the prohibitions also apply to gingerbread men and other human-shaped winter treats.

"The ban, condoned by religious scholars, also covers models of people and animals made of sweets and paste, not just snow, if their facial features are clearly sculpted," Munajjid added. "This means that if the model has no head or the facial features are obliterated, then there is no ban on it."

Sounds like a blast.

Does that mean gingerbread men are out.??? :(
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

QuoteAnd for those who were wondering, the prohibitions also apply to gingerbread men and other human-shaped winter treats.

derspiess

I never knew Saudi Arabia had a place where it snows.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Liep

Quote from: crazy canuck on January 14, 2015, 12:08:48 PM
Quote from: Liep on January 14, 2015, 03:51:17 AM
So the only French comedian I've heard about has been arrested for saying: "Je suis Charlie Coulibaly." Dieudonne seems immediately like a douchebag, but arresting him for that comment might give the freedom of speech haters a reason to call France for hypocrites. :hmm:

EDIT: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/12/french-comedian-dieudonne-charlie-coulibaly-prosecutor

One would think it would be the defenders of free speech who would think this a bit hypocritical.   Freedom of speech haters would likely applaud silencing speech not deemed to be acceptable.

Oh yes, them too. But guys like Ahmadinejad and such has never failed an opportunity to point out when the West doesn't live up to the West's own high standards.
"Af alle latterlige Ting forekommer det mig at være det allerlatterligste at have travlt" - Kierkegaard

"JamenajmenømahrmDÆ!DÆ! Æhvnårvaæhvadlelæh! Hvor er det crazy, det her, mand!" - Uffe Elbæk

Martinus

Quote from: garbon on January 14, 2015, 10:08:28 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on January 14, 2015, 10:03:33 AM
Quote from: Liep on January 14, 2015, 10:00:27 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 14, 2015, 09:58:13 AM
Do they have an English language version?

Yes, it's out in English and something like 8 other languages too. I don't know if it'll be distributed in America, but you can buy it on ebay!

It is probably not too difficult to BT a free copy. 

I think people are mostly interested in showing their support. Hard to say that you've done that if you pirated it. :D

Yeah it's like pirating the Interview. You have bad taste AND help the terrorists win.

Admiral Yi

Is there anything that *doesn't* make Muslims horny?