11 dead in French satirical magazine shooting

[11B4V]

When they corner these terrorists, I hope they just shot them from a distance and let them bleed out, no point in upping the risks to police by trying to detain them alive.

Nope they need to take them alive.

[Monoriu]

When they corner these terrorists, I hope they just shot them from a distance and let them bleed out, no point in upping the risks to police by trying to detain them alive.

Sure there is a point.  To get their friends. 

[Sheilbh]

When they corner these terrorists, I hope they just shot them from a distance and let them bleed out, no point in upping the risks to police by trying to detain them alive.

I don't think these yahoos will have to worry about being taken alive.  It's probably not in their plans anyway.

In fairness these guys had a getaway car ready. Which is weird.

[11B4V]

When they corner these terrorists, I hope they just shot them from a distance and let them bleed out, no point in upping the risks to police by trying to detain them alive.

I don't think these yahoos will have to worry about being taken alive.  It's probably not in their plans anyway.

In fairness these guys had a getaway car ready. Which is weird.

Bingo. Not weird at all.

[CountDeMoney]

In fairness these guys had a getaway car ready. Which is weird.

Bingo. Not weird at all.

Point taken, but you never know if they had other stops planned on their Jihadipalooza Tour that morning that got derailed. 

When they're finally cornered, these guys will either off themselves or slug it out with the gendarmes to the last bullet.  They're not ever going to see a courtroom.

[jimmy olsen]

In fairness these guys had a getaway car ready. Which is weird.

Bingo. Not weird at all.

Point taken, but you never know if they had other stops planned on their Jihadipalooza Tour that morning that got derailed. 

When they're finally cornered, these guys will either off themselves or slug it out with the gendarmes to the last bullet.  They're not ever going to see a courtroom.

Boston marathon bombers tried to do the same, but one still ended up captured.

[Eddie Teach]

Boston marathon bombers tried to do the same, but one still ended up captured.

The real Joker let himself be taken alive too.

[Jacob]

When they corner these terrorists, I hope they just shot them from a distance and let them bleed out, no point in upping the risks to police by trying to detain them alive.

I disagree, actually, and not out of some sort of bleeding heart sentiment. Rather, I think them being taken alive and being subjected to a public trial and the boredom of long term incarceration is less mythologizing and less appealing to these fucks than dying as "martyrs" for their cause. In addition, getting one of them alive will give us more insight on the how and why, which is useful from a number of angles.

I'm glad, for example, that the Boston bomber fucker got taken alive.

[DGuller]

Some details there I didn't know about, or really, care about.  After all, what's there to discuss?  If you want to acquire a weapon, you can.  In general, while it's much harder to acquire firearms legally in Europe than in the US, I'm not sure it's all that more difficult to acquire them illegally.  And if you're planning on using it in a terrorist attack, I'd think that even in the US you'd much rather acquire one illegally.

I'm pretty sure that getting a gun illegally is a lot more difficult in a place where any kind of gun ownership or possession will immediately raise a huge red flag.  I know it's a popular soundbite in US that if guns were outlawed, then only outlaws would guns, but there is a good reason why that soundbite is uttered only by morons.

[CountDeMoney]

Boston marathon bombers tried to do the same, but one still ended up captured.

Shut up.

[Eddie Teach]

I know it's a popular soundbite in US that if guns were outlawed, then only outlaws would guns, but there is a good reason why that soundbite is uttered only by morons.

It's simplistic, sure, but also true.

[alfred russel]

  Yeah, well I'm not having any of that yet.  His BB gun stays locked up in the gun cabinet when we're not using it, I do a range safety briefing each time before I hand him the gun, and watch him like a hawk.  KEEP THAT WEAPON POINTED DOWNRANGE

Oh, and we both wear shooting glasses, something I probably would have hated as a kid.

That sucks. When I was a kid my friends and I would roam the neighborhood with BB guns shooting at unfortunate birds and fish in the canals. One neighborhood kid did get shot in the face with a BB (we had nothing to do with that).

You rules would have been a serious downer.

[alfred russel]

I disagree, actually, and not out of some sort of bleeding heart sentiment. Rather, I think them being taken alive and being subjected to a public trial and the boredom of long term incarceration is less mythologizing and less appealing to these fucks than dying as "martyrs" for their cause. In addition, getting one of them alive will give us more insight on the how and why, which is useful from a number of angles.

Three counterarguments:
1) I don't want to be subjected to the news coverage of their trial (that one might be a bit egoistic).
2) We have lots of experience with islamic extremists, many of which end up in custody. These aren't unique snowflakes we've never encountered before and really need to study.
3) These guys will probably get a bit of celebrity even in jail. Charles Manson hasn't really faded away. He is married iirc and probably enjoying his conjugal visits.

[CountDeMoney]

When I was a kid my friends and I would roam the neighborhood with BB guns shooting at unfortunate birds and fish in the canals.

Jeffrey Dahmer liked to hurt animals as a child, too.  What a coinkydink.

[alfred russel]

When I was a kid my friends and I would roam the neighborhood with BB guns shooting at unfortunate birds and fish in the canals.

Jeffrey Dahmer liked to hurt animals as a child, too.  What a coinkydink.

Boys with BB guns end up shooting at birds. It's just what happens.