11 dead in French satirical magazine shooting

[Martinus]

Reuters / Monday, February 16, 2015

A carnival float with a papier-mache caricature drives past revelers during the traditional Rose Monday carnival parade in Duesseldorf, Germany February 16, 2015. The words read: "You can't kill satire." REUTERS/Ina Fassbender

Well, that's better. I read one pro-Charlie Hebdo Carnival float was censored in Cologne, home of one the biggest German carnivals. For security reasons officially, of course.

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/koeln-koelner-karneval-stoppt-charlie-hebdo-wagen-a-1015583.html

Well, the fact is - and quite understandeably - that actions of terrorists do and will have chilling effect on speech or action of those who want to criticise Islam.

[Valmy]

One of my concerns is if we go suddenly start to treat Islam differently simply to avoid being murdered then why wouldn't fanatics from other religions also want to see their religion similarly "respected"?  I know some of those fundy Christians and nationalist Hindus can get pretty wacky.

It seems logical.  Though perhaps for various reasons I am unaware of this would never be an issue. 

[Grallon]

One of my concerns is if we go suddenly start to treat Islam differently simply to avoid being murdered then why wouldn't fanatics from other religions also want to see their religion similarly "respected"?  I know some of those fundy Christians and nationalist Hindus can get pretty wacky.

It seems logical.  Though perhaps for various reasons I am unaware of this would never be an issue.

That's what happens when you allow religion to creep back into the public sphere when it should be kept at bay in the private one. 



G.

[Martinus]

One of my concerns is if we go suddenly start to treat Islam differently simply to avoid being murdered then why wouldn't fanatics from other religions also want to see their religion similarly "respected"?  I know some of those fundy Christians and nationalist Hindus can get pretty wacky.

It seems logical.  Though perhaps for various reasons I am unaware of this would never be an issue.

I am not sure what's your point. Just to avoid confusion, I was not saying it's a good thing - quite the opposite. But it happens.

[Valmy]

I am not sure what's your point. Just to avoid confusion, I was not saying it's a good thing - quite the opposite. But it happens.

What was confusing about my point?  It is something I have been thinking about for awhile, your post just reminded me of it.

I am well aware you were not saying it was a good thing.

[Razgovory]

lots of people find excuses for these people, even the tribunals refuse to take seriously the threat that represent radical socialism on our society.

I'd say the difference between the people throwing bricks in windows and thrashing everything on their way is minial compared to those who stay silent, or even nurture these radical feelings, as the PQ did.

You are confusing things and are seriously delusional if you equate PQ radicals - whatever that is - and Muslim scums who can turn murderous at the drop of a hat since their death cult allows/applauds it.



G.

Did any member of PQ kill someone for political reasons?

[Malthus]

Did any member of PQ kill someone for political reasons?

PQ, no, as far as I'm aware. The FLQ certainly did. Bombings, kidnappings and murder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Crisis

[Valmy]

I like how the Canadian government was led by 'Pierre' and the radical terrorist Quebec nationalists were led by 'Paul'.

Yes I know 'Paul' can also be a French name.

[Martinus]

I am not sure what's your point. Just to avoid confusion, I was not saying it's a good thing - quite the opposite. But it happens.

What was confusing about my point?  It is something I have been thinking about for awhile, your post just reminded me of it.

I am well aware you were not saying it was a good thing.

Ok sorry.

I have some stories to tell but cannot share for professional reasons.

[Admiral Yi]

4 people have been picked up for questioning in relation to the Jewmarket attack.  One of them is a female cop in a counterintelligence unit.

[KRonn]

4 people have been picked up for questioning in relation to the Jewmarket attack.  One of them is a female cop in a counterintelligence unit.

Wow, we'll see if any of this pans out. Seems pretty disturbing if it was a cop, especially in a counterintelligence unit which I would think requires some security clearance.

[jimmy olsen]

Surprised this hasn't gotten any buzz here.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32409253

France police arrest man 'planning to attack churches'


8 hours ago
From the section Europe

French police have arrested a man suspected of planning an attack on "one or two churches" in a Paris suburb, the country's interior minister has said.

Sid Ahmed Ghlam, a 24-year-old Algerian national, was detained on Sunday in Paris after he apparently shot himself by accident and called an ambulance.

He is also being questioned over the murder of a woman on Sunday.

France has stepped up security in the wake of recent attacks on the Charlie Hebdo offices and a Jewish supermarket.

Ghlam was known to security services as having expressed a wish to travel to Syria to fight with Islamist militants, French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said.
 
When police arrived at the scene on Sunday, they followed a trail of blood to the suspect's car, where they found weapons and notes on potential targets.

The documents established "beyond doubt" that Ghlam planned on attacking churches, said Mr Cazeneuve.

"Several war weapons, hand guns, ammunition [and] bullet-proof vests," were found in his car and home, the minister added.

Documents linked to al-Qaeda and Islamic State were also found at his apartment, the Paris prosecutor Francois Molins said. A contact in Syria had advised Ghlam to target churches, he added.

The authorities have carried out security checks on the suspect twice in recent years but did not uncover anything to justify further investigation.

Victim

It is not known yet what link the man has to the murdered woman, Aurelie Chatelain, who was found dead in her car in Villejuif, a Paris suburb, on Sunday.

Passers-by discovered her body as smoke poured out of the car from an overheating laptop.

The 32-year-old was visiting the Paris area to attend a training course.

"Our thoughts and sorrow are with her relatives, her family, and her daughter now deprived of her presence." said Mr Cazeneuve.

Hundreds of French citizens have travelled to Syria and Iraq to fight alongside militants, with many at home with links to recruitment cells.

"Terrorists are targeting France to divide us," French Prime Minister Manuel Valls warned on Wednesday.

[The Brain]

Is he a Muslim?

[Malthus]

Apparently he started his reign of terror by cleverly shooting himself. Definitely a trend to be encouraged. 

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Is he a Muslim?

posing the question is answering it.