European Islamophobia

[Syt]

Is that law actually applied, though, or do applications for asylum just sort of get rubber-stamped:  "Well, you're seeking asylum so of course you're being persecuted in your homeland" when in fact the applicant might just be job-seeking, that type of thing.  It's my impression that that sort of thing is common in some countries, but not in Germany, but I could be mistaken (after all, it's just an impression).

The procedure can take weeks and months to verify each case. But yeah, Pegida is against harboring asylum seekers who are looking for jobs/welfare over here. Again, that's already covered by the law, though.

[Siege]

I wonder how does a burning mosque smells.

[Valmy]

I wonder how does a burning mosque smells.

Surprised you don't know after all that time in Iraq.

[Razgovory]

I wonder how does a burning mosque smells.

It's the precursor smell to burning synagogue.  Once they finish off Muslims, they'll eventually get around to the Jews.  Whenever the fires of ethnic hatred are stoked, it always burns the Jews in the end.

[Valmy]

I wonder how does a burning mosque smells.

It's the precursor smell to burning synagogue.  Once they finish off Muslims, they'll eventually get around to the Jews.  Whenever the fires of ethnic hatred are stoked, it always burns the Jews in the end.

Huh.  We have hated lots of people but never burned any Jews.  That may be an uniquely European thing.

[Norgy]

Yeah, it's not like the Mongols killed anyone. 

[dps]

I wonder how does a burning mosque smells.

It's the precursor smell to burning synagogue.  Once they finish off Muslims, they'll eventually get around to the Jews.  Whenever the fires of ethnic hatred are stoked, it always burns the Jews in the end.

I think you have that backwards.  The Euros pretty much finished off their Jews about 70 years ago.  They're getting around to the Muslims now.  Not sure if they have the Hindus or the Bhuddists schedules next;  you'll have to ask one of our European posters.

[Razgovory]

I wonder how does a burning mosque smells.

It's the precursor smell to burning synagogue.  Once they finish off Muslims, they'll eventually get around to the Jews.  Whenever the fires of ethnic hatred are stoked, it always burns the Jews in the end.

Huh.  We have hated lots of people but never burned any Jews.  That may be an uniquely European thing.

Ever hear the of the Knights of Mary Fhagan?  After they lynched a Jewish man, they reformed the Ku Klux Klan.  Whenever ethnic hatred arises, sooner or later the boot will fall on a Jew.  Guaranteed.  Fortunately most Jews are out of the reach of Europe, and their words are backed by nuclear weapons.  If there was no Israel and those Jews had to live in Europe, they'd be treated like Roma.  Bigotry is like a cataract, it spread across the eyeball. It distorts a man's vision of one people, and it'll soon distort the vision of groups as well.

[Martinus]

Fortunately, as this thread shows, European Islamophobia is being nipped in the bud.

http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,12371.0.html

Or should I say "sniped in the bud"?

[Ideologue]

I wonder how does a burning mosque smells.

It's the precursor smell to burning synagogue.  Once they finish off Muslims, they'll eventually get around to the Jews.  Whenever the fires of ethnic hatred are stoked, it always burns the Jews in the end.

Huh.  We have hated lots of people but never burned any Jews.  That may be an uniquely European thing.

Ever hear the of the Knights of Mary Fhagan?  After they lynched a Jewish man, they reformed the Ku Klux Klan.  Whenever ethnic hatred arises, sooner or later the boot will fall on a Jew.  Guaranteed.  Fortunately most Jews are out of the reach of Europe, and their words are backed by nuclear weapons.  If there was no Israel and those Jews had to live in Europe, they'd be treated like Roma.  Bigotry is like a cataract, it spread across the eyeball. It distorts a man's vision of one people, and it'll soon distort the vision of groups as well.

Is it really "bigoted" to dislike an ideology?

I mean, Europeans put people in camps, that's their thing.  But just disliking Islam or worrying that Muslims may attain organized political power is not bigotry any more than disliking Christianity or worrying at the demonstrated negative outcomes Christians with organized political power have effected in the U.S.

[Martinus]

Yeah. I guess Margaret Atwood is a bigot for writing "Handmaid's Tale".

[Richard Hakluyt]

I dislike Islam in roughly the same way that I dislike Communism. It is a disagreeable ideology that works against a free society, is oppressive to women and, at its extremes, is murderous.

I have met both communists and muslims that are good people of course.

[Martinus]

I dislike Islam in roughly the same way that I dislike Communism. It is a disagreeable ideology that works against a free society, is oppressive to women and, at its extremes, is murderous.

I have met both communists and muslims that are good people of course.

That is 100% how I feel. Apparently, according to some people, that makes us islamophobic/racist.

[mongers]

Meanwhile back in the Middle East, the carnage continues unabated, at least 33 people, many lining up to join the police, are murdered by a suicide car bomb this morning in the Yemen.



A policeman holds up the photo of one of the victims of the bomb attack in Sanaa (7 January 2015)

I thought I'd post this, as the image is telling without showing the graphic consequences of a car bomb on people's bodies, those images that are routinely censored here in the West, because we're assumed to be squeamish.

[Malthus]

I dislike Islam in roughly the same way that I dislike Communism. It is a disagreeable ideology that works against a free society, is oppressive to women and, at its extremes, is murderous.

I have met both communists and muslims that are good people of course.

That is 100% how I feel. Apparently, according to some people, that makes us islamophobic/racist.

Islamophobia isn't racism, but they do share some attributes.

The main issue is one of distorted thinking, of not seeing things as they are, but based on a negative set of generalizations based on extreme examples - conflating a large and confusing mass of contradictory data down into a simple story defined by its worst and most extreme elements. 

For example, a person who hated Christianity could point to the abortion clinic murders, the child sex scandals in the Catholic Church, the Ugandan death threats against gays, and the like. The problem of course is that not all Christians are the same, and sharing the same religion (at least in name) does not make (say) a unitarian minister type responsible for, or approving of, Catholic child sex scandals.