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How Many Great People Are Good People?

Started by Queequeg, December 21, 2014, 06:44:35 PM

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Martinus

#45
December 22, 2014, 01:38:47 AM

Jaron

#46
December 22, 2014, 01:41:05 AM
Winner of THE grumbler point.

mongers

#47
December 22, 2014, 06:54:30 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 21, 2014, 11:23:33 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on December 21, 2014, 10:10:00 PM
Obviously the vices we seen in more modern politicians (outside the really off-the-reservation Hitlers/Stalins/Mao's) will be panty-waist stuff compared to the feudal, classical types.

We could only wish we had an LBJ in Congress now, berating the fuck out of that little shit Ted Cruz at the urinal, smacking McConnell and Reid like Stooges, driving Rand Paul to the point of tears over his perm, and showing Nancy Pelosi a Monster Cock That Moves Legislation By Its Very Presence.

Yes, in today's terminology, he was a pretty awesome political operator.

I think his heart was in the right place, but he messed up on a couple of issues.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

The Brain

#48
December 22, 2014, 12:58:37 PM
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Queequeg

#49
December 22, 2014, 01:21:37 PM
Quote from: The Brain on December 22, 2014, 12:58:37 PM
Quote from: Martinus on December 22, 2014, 01:38:47 AM
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Charles XII.

You're joking, right?

No. Are you?
He got a ton of Swedes killed and dragged out a campaign he wasn't going to win against an enemy Sweden had no hope of overcoming.
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The Brain

#50
December 22, 2014, 01:25:34 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on December 22, 2014, 01:21:37 PM
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Charles XII.

You're joking, right?

No. Are you?
He got a ton of Swedes killed and dragged out a campaign he wasn't going to win against an enemy Sweden had no hope of overcoming.

Source?
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Habbaku

#51
December 22, 2014, 01:27:11 PM
 :lol:
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

Habbaku

#52
December 22, 2014, 01:28:16 PM
Though I'm surprised that Spellus doesn't gush over him, actually.  He had a very similar personality to Teddy Roosevelt, from what I can tell.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

Brezel

#53
December 22, 2014, 01:29:50 PM
Hitler couldn't hurt a fly.

The Brain

#54
December 22, 2014, 01:31:39 PM
Quote from: Brezel on December 22, 2014, 01:29:50 PM
Hitler couldn't hurt a fly.

Because he was a vegetarian he is suddenly good people?
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Brezel

#55
December 22, 2014, 03:14:12 PM
Quote from: The Brain on December 22, 2014, 01:31:39 PM

Because he was a vegetarian he is suddenly good people?

He loved dogs.

Razgovory

#56
December 22, 2014, 03:30:42 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on December 22, 2014, 01:21:37 PM
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Charles XII.

You're joking, right?

No. Are you?
He got a ton of Swedes killed and dragged out a campaign he wasn't going to win against an enemy Sweden had no hope of overcoming.

He's as close to "great" as you are going to get in Sweden.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Sheilbh

#57
December 22, 2014, 03:34:18 PM
Great Northern War hijack? :mellow:
Let's bomb Russia!

Siege

#58
December 22, 2014, 04:34:32 PM
Is it possible to be great and not be an asshole?


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"

Jacob

#59
December 22, 2014, 11:48:07 PM
Quote from: Siege on December 22, 2014, 04:34:32 PM
Is it possible to be great and not be an asshole?

Not sure, but it's definitely possible to be an asshole and be mediocre.
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