But is this (implied) rape?

[Syt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MFJ7ie_yGU

I know it's in the spirit of the day, but damn does it look creepy today.

Then again, it has Ricardo Montalban ....




"Baby It's Cold Outside"

(I really can't stay) But, baby, it's cold outside
(I've got to go away) But, baby, it's cold outside
(This evening has been) Been hoping that you'd drop in
(So very nice) I'll hold your hands they're just like ice

(My mother will start to worry) Beautiful, what's your hurry
(My father will be pacing the floor) Listen to the fireplace roar
(So really I'd better scurry) Beautiful, please don't hurry
(Well, maybe just half a drink more) Put some records on while I pour

(The neighbors might think) Baby, it's bad out there
(Say what's in this drink) No cabs to be had out there
(I wish I knew how) Your eyes are like starlight now
(To break this spell) I'll take your hat, your hair looks swell

(I ought to say no, no, no, sir) Mind if I move in closer
(At least I'm gonna say that I tried) What's the sense of hurting my pride
(I really can't stay) Baby, don't hold doubt
[Both] Baby, it's cold outside

(I simply must go) Baby, it's cold outside
(The answer is no) Baby, it's cold outside
(The welcome has been) How lucky that you dropped in
(So nice and warm) Look out the window at the storm

(My sister will be suspicious) Gosh your lips look delicious
(My brother will be there at the door) Waves upon a tropical shore
(My maiden aunt's mind is vicious) Gosh your lips are delicious
(But maybe just a cigarette more) Never such a blizzard before

(I got to get home) But, baby, you'd freeze out there
(Say lend me a coat) It's up to your knees out there
(You've really been grand) I thrill when you touch my hand
(But don't you see) How can you do this thing to me

(There's bound to be talk tomorrow) Think of my life long sorrow
(At least there will be plenty implied) If you caught pneumonia and died
(I really can't stay) Get over that old doubt
[Both] Baby, it's cold
[Both] Baby, it's cold outside

[garbon]

Yeah, I was reading about how back then, this is really just the woman putting up token resistance.

I did like this Vine from Buzzfeed:
https://vine.co/v/OvEFvQOa9qO

[CountDeMoney]

Mmm, "token resistance".  Yum-may.

[Syt]

I hadn't seen the original movie scene before, and it's really not something that would fly today. It's Montalban in "Space Seed" form, only slightly more playful.

[derspiess]

The only creepy thing in the song in today's context is "Say, what's in this drink?"

My favorite version of the song is with Louis Armstrong & Velma Middleton. 

[garbon]

The only creepy thing in the song in today's context is "Say, what's in this drink?"

Ah yeah that was the part, I was thinking - with implication that it was then used as an excuse to do what she actually wants to do, but under the cover that it is the alcohol and not her who bears the responsibility.

[Syt]

The only creepy thing in the song in today's context is "Say, what's in this drink?"

The song yes - the video is a bit more explicit in her resisting his advances. Of course it's immediately played for laughs in the second half where gender roles are reversed.

[Sheilbh]

That song is dodgy. Not as much this popular European hit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7GhrUaNDAI

[Syt]

You want dodgy? Go with Serge/Charlotte Gainsbourg's Lemon Incest. Not only is it a horrible song artistically, the video also features bare chested Serge with his twelve year old daughter wearing panties on a bed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot_tRRlxe1A


Lemon Incest

Charlotte
Inceste de citron
(Lemon incest)
Je t'aime, t'aime, je t'aime plus que tout
(Papapappa)

Serge Gainsbourg
Naïve comme une toile du Nierdoi Sseaurou
Tes baisers sont si doux

Charlotte
Inceste de citron
(Lemon incest)
Je t'aime, t'aime, je t'aime plus que tout
(Papapappa)

L'amour que nous ne ferons jamais ensemble
Est le plus beau, le rare, le plus troublant
Le plus pur, le plus enivrant

Serge Gainsbourg
Exquise esquisse
Délicieuse enfant
Ma chair et mon sang
Oh, mon bébé, mon âme



(Translated lyrics)

Lemon Incest

Charlotte
Lemon incest
(Lemon incest)
I love you, love you, I love you more than anything
(Daddydaddy)

Serge Gainsbourg
Naïve as a painting by Henri Rousseau*
Your kisses are so sweet

Charlotte
Lemon incest
(Lemon incest)
I love you, love you, I love you more than anything
(Daddydaddy)

The love we'll never make together
Is the most beautiful, the rarest, the most disconcerting
The purest, the headiest

Serge Gainsbourg
Exquisite sketch
Delightful child
My flesh and blood
Oh my baby my soul

[Martinus]

Yes, this song is about implied rape.

Except when sung by Kurt and Blaine from Glee

[Viking]

Mmm, "token resistance".  Yum-may.

Ah, Token Resistance, the reason for date rape.

I know I'm cruel, but this the point where I observe that "no means no" and suggest that whoever doesn't live "here" leaves. Apparently no means don't let me feel like I'm an easy lay.

[Valmy]

The only creepy thing in the song in today's context is "Say, what's in this drink?"

Yeah that just takes it to a dark place.

[Valmy]

Yes, this song is about implied rape.

Except when sung by Kurt and Blaine from Glee

No, that is just the song being raped.

[CountDeMoney]

Mmm, "token resistance".  Yum-may.

Ah, Token Resistance, the reason for date rape.

I know I'm cruel, but this the point where I observe that "no means no" and suggest that whoever doesn't live "here" leaves. Apparently no means don't let me feel like I'm an easy lay.

Hey now, don't get me wrong:  I know when enough is enough.  And when I can't see because of the pepper spray.

[HVC]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2aozs0_idina-menzel-michael-buble-baby-it-s-cold-outside-official-music-video_music


Just to add an extra level of creepy.