The Queen of Torture: Alfreda Bikowsky?

[dps]

Alfreda Bikowsky and Valerie Plame: double standard or not?

Accusing the media of having double standards mistakenly implies that they have standards in the first place. 

I'm not really being flip here, either.  While there are standards that journalists are supposed to conform to, it seems that that aren't really followed at very many media outlets.

[grumbler]

Alfreda Bikowsky and Valerie Plame: double standard or not?

Dunno.  If Bikowski served under cover overseas, then yes.  If not, then no.  Do you have reason to believe that she did so serve, or were you just on a fishing expedition?

[grumbler]

Alfreda Bikowsky and Valerie Plame: double standard or not?

Accusing the media of having double standards mistakenly implies that they have standards in the first place. 

I'm not really being flip here, either.  While there are standards that journalists are supposed to conform to, it seems that that aren't really followed at very many media outlets.

  Okay, Mr Black-and-white.

At least you properly used media as a plural noun, so there's that.

[Razgovory]

Alfreda Bikowsky and Valerie Plame: double standard or not?

Dunno.  If Bikowski served under cover overseas, then yes.  If not, then no.  Do you have reason to believe that she did so serve, or were you just on a fishing expedition?

The article does mention that she personally oversaw torture which ussually happens overseas. 

Oh I forgot.  Someone tell Grumbler, that the article mentions she personally oversaw torture.

[CountDeMoney]

Alfreda Bikowsky and Valerie Plame: double standard or not?

Dunno.  If Bikowski served under cover overseas, then yes.  If not, then no.  Do you have reason to believe that she did so serve, or were you just on a fishing expedition?

The article does mention that she personally oversaw torture which ussually happens overseas. 

Oh I forgot.  Someone tell Grumbler, that the article mentions she personally oversaw torture.

Stop being Razzy. 

Bikowsky is a high level manager and administrator, Plame was a covert asset.  Her identity would not be covert, what with the name on the door and the business cards and whatnot.
Bikowsky's identity was withheld by the CIA specifically to prevent agency embarrassment.   Plame's identity was leaked by the Vice President's office to the press specifically for embarrassment.

[Razgovory]

Stop being Razzy. 

Bikowsky is a high level manager and administrator, Plame was a covert asset.  Her identity would not be covert, what with the name on the door and the business cards and whatnot.
Bikowsky's identity was withheld by the CIA specifically to prevent agency embarrassment.   Plame's identity was leaked by the Vice President's office to the press specifically for embarrassment.

I don't know enough about her to make decision if she it was improper to reveal her name or not.  It did say she personally oversaw torture at least one time. Is that covert thing or overt thing?

[CountDeMoney]

I don't know enough about her to make decision if she it was improper to reveal her name or not.  It did say she personally oversaw torture at least one time. Is that covert thing or overt thing?

Taking it upon oneself to go see KSM's waterboarding personally is not issue of one's covert or overt identity. 

[grumbler]

Stop being Razzy. 

You are about ten years too late! 

Bikowsky is a high level manager and administrator, Plame was a covert asset.  Her identity would not be covert, what with the name on the door and the business cards and whatnot.
Bikowsky's identity was administratively withheld by the CIA specifically to prevent agency embarrassment.   Plame's identity was illegally leaked by the Vice President's office to the press specifically for embarrassment.

I don't think Raz can grasp the difference between blowing the cover of a covert overseas operative and revealing the identity of a CIA bureaucrat who may have left the US for a time.  The law knows the difference.  And Raz's limitations don't prevent any of us from understanding the difference, so I'd leave him to stew in his own ignorance.  FYPFY, btw.

[Razgovory]

I will leave it to Yi decide if my statements are over the top here.