Thaw in US - Cuba relations

[The Minsky Moment]

Hopefully this will work out better than Hong Kong.

Very different situation, in some ways more favorable, in some ways less favorable.

[Berkut]

Footage of the military and black berets on the streets already.

For people wondering what tankies are - it looks like this:

Progressive International
@ProgIntl
Hands off Cuba!

DSA International Committee Rose
@DSA_Intl_Comm
DSA stands with the Cuban people and their Revolution in this moment of unrest. End the blockade.

And a Labour member in the UK today organising a protest outside the Cuban Embassy in solidarity with the Cuban Revolution.

All of which feels pretty gross when it looks like the state is at least trying to organise a crackdown.

I don't understand - are they supporting the protesters, or the government when it cracks down on the protesters?

Hands off? Whose hands are on???

[Valmy]

Well this is interesting indeed. I thought Biden's statements on it were fitting, nicely not mentioning our ongoing sanctions regime and all that unpleasantness.

So hopefully this leads to developments that finally enables us to end those sanctions and normalize relations.

[Valmy]

Good luck to the people of Cuba.

They certainly rarely have that variety of luck.

[The Brain]

Good luck to the people of Cuba.

They certainly rarely have that variety of luck.

Clearly you haven't been talking to many Swedes about Cuba.

[Admiral Yi]

Fun factoid from The Economist: the US is the largest exporter of food to Cuba.

Suck on that tankie bitches.

[Tonitrus]

Well this is interesting indeed. I thought Biden's statements on it were fitting, nicely not mentioning our ongoing sanctions regime and all that unpleasantness.

So hopefully this leads to developments that finally enables us to end those sanctions and normalize relations.

Unless those developments are the regime capitulating...not likely.  If there is any semblance of a crackdown, politically impossible.

[Jacob]

I don't understand - are they supporting the protesters, or the government when it cracks down on the protesters?

Hands off? Whose hands are on???

Allow me to explain (without endorsing):

1. The government of Cuba (and Venezuela, and others beside) are popular revolutionary governments for the people, by the people.

2. What appears to popular opposition against them is in fact encouraged and manufactured by imperialist aggressors - the US first and foremost, but any Western Country could be involved (especially the local country where the "hands off" prostestor is located). The CIA is most assuredly involved.

3. So the hands that should be taken off are those of the foreign governments encouraging the overthrow of the legitimate regime in Cuba for the benefits of capitalist elites.

[Berkut]

I don't understand - are they supporting the protesters, or the government when it cracks down on the protesters?

Hands off? Whose hands are on???

Allow me to explain (without endorsing):

1. The government of Cuba (and Venezuela, and others beside) are popular revolutionary governments for the people, by the people.

2. What appears to popular opposition against them is in fact encouraged and manufactured by imperialist aggressors - the US first and foremost, but any Western Country could be involved (especially the local country where the "hands off" prostestor is located). The CIA is most assuredly involved.

3. So the hands that should be taken off are those of the foreign governments encouraging the overthrow of the legitimate regime in Cuba for the benefits of capitalist elites.

Yeah, but that's not real - nobody actually believes such nonsense.

Right?

[The Brain]

I don't understand - are they supporting the protesters, or the government when it cracks down on the protesters?

Hands off? Whose hands are on???

Allow me to explain (without endorsing):

1. The government of Cuba (and Venezuela, and others beside) are popular revolutionary governments for the people, by the people.

2. What appears to popular opposition against them is in fact encouraged and manufactured by imperialist aggressors - the US first and foremost, but any Western Country could be involved (especially the local country where the "hands off" prostestor is located). The CIA is most assuredly involved.

3. So the hands that should be taken off are those of the foreign governments encouraging the overthrow of the legitimate regime in Cuba for the benefits of capitalist elites.

Yeah, but that's not real - nobody actually believes such nonsense.

Right?

Left.

[Valmy]

Well this is interesting indeed. I thought Biden's statements on it were fitting, nicely not mentioning our ongoing sanctions regime and all that unpleasantness.

So hopefully this leads to developments that finally enables us to end those sanctions and normalize relations.

Unless those developments are the regime capitulating...not likely.  If there is any semblance of a crackdown, politically impossible.

True. If they crackdown the status quo will continue. But there are several varieties of outcomes other than that.

So it is interesting. Also kind of interesting that this would even happen, I thought the Castro regime remained largely popular.

[Barrister]

Well this is interesting indeed. I thought Biden's statements on it were fitting, nicely not mentioning our ongoing sanctions regime and all that unpleasantness.

So hopefully this leads to developments that finally enables us to end those sanctions and normalize relations.

Unless those developments are the regime capitulating...not likely.  If there is any semblance of a crackdown, politically impossible.

True. If they crackdown the status quo will continue. But there are several varieties of outcomes other than that.

So it is interesting. Also kind of interesting that this would even happen, I thought the Castro regime remained largely popular.

Apparently not.

The shutdown in tourism coming from Covid-19 has apparently really hurt their economy.

[viper37]

Footage of the military and black berets on the streets already.

For people wondering what tankies are - it looks like this:

Progressive International
@ProgIntl
Hands off Cuba!

DSA International Committee Rose
@DSA_Intl_Comm
DSA stands with the Cuban people and their Revolution in this moment of unrest. End the blockade.

And a Labour member in the UK today organising a protest outside the Cuban Embassy in solidarity with the Cuban Revolution.

All of which feels pretty gross when it looks like the state is at least trying to organise a crackdown.

That's sick.

isn't this the party of AOC and Bernie?

[viper37]

Allow me to explain (without endorsing):

1. The government of Cuba (and Venezuela, and others beside) are popular revolutionary governments for the people, by the people.

2. What appears to popular opposition against them is in fact encouraged and manufactured by imperialist aggressors - the US first and foremost, but any Western Country could be involved (especially the local country where the "hands off" prostestor is located). The CIA is most assuredly involved.

3. So the hands that should be taken off are those of the foreign governments encouraging the overthrow of the legitimate regime in Cuba for the benefits of capitalist elites.

Yeah, but that's not real - nobody actually believes such nonsense.

Right?

when did you become so naive? 

[grumbler]

Footage of the military and black berets on the streets already.

For people wondering what tankies are - it looks like this:

Progressive International
@ProgIntl
Hands off Cuba!

DSA International Committee Rose
@DSA_Intl_Comm
DSA stands with the Cuban people and their Revolution in this moment of unrest. End the blockade.

And a Labour member in the UK today organising a protest outside the Cuban Embassy in solidarity with the Cuban Revolution.

All of which feels pretty gross when it looks like the state is at least trying to organise a crackdown.

That's sick.

isn't this the party of AOC and Bernie?

No, the Labour Party is British.  AOC and Bernie Sanders are Americans.