The Case of the Missing Wine

[alfred russel]

Im fairly certain that ovb has comitted the perfect crime. How can he be prosecuted for stealing wine when the wine is gone?

[11B4V]

Im fairly certain that ovb has comitted the perfect crime. How can he be prosecuted for stealing wine when the wine is gone?

GOOGLE SEARCH+FEDEX MISSING WINE

5TH Result. 

Full admission, Prosecution  rests.

[Habbaku]

 

[dps]

I pretty much agree with grumbler, but because I'm an excellent person I wouldn't have drunk the wine myself.  I would have just left it on the front porch indefinitely.

I'm not sure that he's legally correct, though.  Legally, if a business ships something to you that you didn't order, you're entitled to consider it a gift and keep it without any obligation to pay for it. 

Is that true? I had no idea. 

Me neither. I thought this only applies to things that they ship to you intentionally (this is to curb the practice of "ambush deliveries"), not when they ship it to you by mistake.

If you get a package that you didn't order, with your name and address on it, how would you possibly know if it was a good faith mistake instead of an "ambush delivery"?  To be honest, if you haven't ordered something from a company, I'm not sure how they could mistakenly send anything to you in the first place, though some companies are so poorly run that it probably does happen.  (Unless you're talking about a situation where you did order something, and they sent you the wrong thing.  That's a different case from what I'm referring to.).

[Martinus]

Yeah that's what I meant. For example, recently I was ordering groceries online and got everything I ordered twice (but only paid for one order). I only realised that when the delivery guy was gone so I called them and they collected the extra stuff on the next day.

[celedhring]

What happened to me once is that I placed an order, cancelled it afterwards, but the company still sent me the merchandise without charging me. I offered to return it as long as they provided the shipping (it was their mistake after all, I had canceled my order well within their time limit), but they told me to keep it. It was 100 $ worth of merchandise.

Pity it wasn't anything particularly useful,  just props for a short film I was working in.

[Darth Wagtaros]

What happened to me once is that I placed an order, cancelled it afterwards, but the company still sent me the merchandise without charging me. I offered to return it as long as they provided the shipping (it was their mistake after all, I had canceled my order well within their time limit), but they told me to keep it. It was 100 $ worth of merchandise.

Good will is probably worth more than the cost of dealing with the paperwork from their point of view. Amazon has done the same thing for me, though not for 100 bucks worth.

[sbr]

Where did you get the idea of the FedEx drivers as franchisees?  I worked for FedEx as a temp ~20 years ago and I am almost certain that was not the case then.

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Ah, FedEX Ground.  I knew their were some differences between the two, but I didn't know the Ground drivers were contractors.  I am almost positive that the Express drivers are still regular hourly employees that get regular (but not great) benefits and drive company owned vehicles.

Not that any of this really matters, I have no idea how either company handles mis-deliveries.  I was just surprised about the contractor/franchisee comment but that is sorted out now.

[sbr]

What happened to me once is that I placed an order, cancelled it afterwards, but the company still sent me the merchandise without charging me. I offered to return it as long as they provided the shipping (it was their mistake after all, I had canceled my order well within their time limit), but they told me to keep it. It was 100 $ worth of merchandise.

Good will is probably worth more than the cost of dealing with the paperwork from their point of view. Amazon has done the same thing for me, though not for 100 bucks worth.

Probably not just good will, I would bet it would cost more than $100 for them to go back, pick up the package, return it to where ever, re-shelf it, update the records/inventory etc. 

It's a write-off for them.  All these big companies, they write off everything

[Darth Wagtaros]

That too yes. It might even have to be marked down as 'used' or whatever, and they'd lose money on the deal.

[alfred russel]

That too yes. It might even have to be marked down as 'used' or whatever, and they'd lose money on the deal.

It is also possible that the person on the phone wasn't following some sort of big company logic and just didn't want to do any extra work that would cut into internet surfing time.

[Razgovory]

Well, we learned that it is unwise to go near Otto's house.  The fact that his moral compass is broken and that he has open contempt for law is not surprising though.  I remember back during the Iraq war when he argued an act was legal simply by the virtue committed by the President of the US.

[Josquius]

Im fairly certain that ovb has comitted the perfect crime. How can he be prosecuted for stealing wine when the wine is gone?

GOOGLE SEARCH+FEDEX MISSING WINE

5TH Result. 

Full admission, Prosecution  rests.

This story could take an interesting turn if the guy does the logical thing and searches the internet for what to do and finds languish

[Razgovory]

Well only if he connects an anonymous poster on this forum with some guy living Fredricksburg, Maryland.

[Martinus]

Well only if he connects an anonymous poster on this forum with some guy living Fredricksburg, Maryland.

Now he can. Thanks Raz.