House GOP not waiting until January; War on Science and the EPA begins now

Started by CountDeMoney, November 24, 2014, 07:26:45 PM

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Neil

Quote from: garbon on January 14, 2015, 09:54:31 PM
I don't really see how it would help / it would just send lots of ordinary citizens into panic mode.
It creates an impetus for political change.  Besides, people should be in panic mode.
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 14, 2015, 07:29:27 PM
Most of that stuff is bullshit, but I am surprised that Fast and Furious didn't become a bigger scandal.

It isn't surprising at all.  The scandal of F&F was the government participating in the subversion of its own firearms control laws.   But those are the very laws that the most vocal attackers of the President want to weaken themselves.  So instead the line of attack was to suggest is was some complex but diabolical conspiracy to tighten regulation and take away everyone's guns.   :tinfoil: Thus undermining its political value as a scandal other than for the already converted.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: crazy canuck on November 24, 2014, 07:31:12 PM
It seems to be a strategy of all governments to deal with the inconvenient truths of science.
See the EU Parliament abolishing the EU's Chief Science Officer because the current holder supports GM :bleeding:

I don't see an issue with House chairs having those powers.
Let's bomb Russia!

dps

Quote from: Sheilbh on January 15, 2015, 01:10:22 AM

See the EU Parliament abolishing the EU's Chief Science Officer because the current holder supports GM :bleeding:


Guess he should have bought an Accord.  ;)

CountDeMoney

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 15, 2015, 01:06:01 AM
The scandal of F&F was the government participating in the subversion of its own firearms control laws.

Weenie ass cowardly prosecutors didn't help much, either.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 15, 2015, 01:06:01 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 14, 2015, 07:29:27 PM
Most of that stuff is bullshit, but I am surprised that Fast and Furious didn't become a bigger scandal.

It isn't surprising at all.  The scandal of F&F was the government participating in the subversion of its own firearms control laws.   But those are the very laws that the most vocal attackers of the President want to weaken themselves.  So instead the line of attack was to suggest is was some complex but diabolical conspiracy to tighten regulation and take away everyone's guns.   :tinfoil: Thus undermining its political value as a scandal other than for the already converted.
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Berkut

Quote from: derspiess on January 14, 2015, 05:21:42 PM
Elections have consequences.

I love how your partisan stance is entirely unencumbered by any principles.
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derspiess

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derspiess

:D

Anyway, Berkut-- that was an Obama quote from 2009 when he was lecturing GOP lawmakers.  I like to throw it back occasionally as a semi-troll.
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CountDeMoney

LOL, I don't think there's any "semi" about it.  Unless it has 18 wheels' worth of troll.  :D

Jacob

Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2015, 12:02:53 PM
LOL, I don't think there's any "semi" about it.  Unless it has 18 wheels' worth of troll.  :D

You could hitch a trailer to that thing, no problem.

Berkut

Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2015, 11:59:05 AM
:D

Anyway, Berkut-- that was an Obama quote from 2009 when he was lecturing GOP lawmakers.  I like to throw it back occasionally as a semi-troll.

But it isn't really a troll, since it actually aligns very nicely with your generally stated views on politics.
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Jacob

Quote from: Berkut on January 15, 2015, 12:54:08 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2015, 11:59:05 AM
:D

Anyway, Berkut-- that was an Obama quote from 2009 when he was lecturing GOP lawmakers.  I like to throw it back occasionally as a semi-troll.

But it isn't really a troll, since it actually aligns very nicely with your generally stated views on politics.

That's what makes it "semi-". He knows it'll get a reaction as if he was straight up trolling, but it pretty much fits with what he thinks; but the the main reason to throw it out there is for the reaction.

Valmy

Quote from: garbon on January 14, 2015, 09:13:21 PM
Well V did just mimic the reasoning that leads the young apathetic voter not to vote.

I always vote.  But Congress has not been functional in years.  My faith in them is not being helped by continuing to add a bunch of amateurish ideologues.  Sorry if that makes me an ignorant asshole of some sort  :P

They are about to have a showdown over that Keystone Pipeline thing for Godsake.
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