Bill Cosby sex abuse scandal

[Malthus]

I am a bit surprised this is news.  I thought this came out awhile ago.

Anyway growing up in the 80s, finding out Bill Cosby is evil is just a bit more than I can take.  I am doing my very best to ignore it.  Man you just cannot trust anybody anymore.  How many of you guys are evil?

Only professionally. 

[Ideologue]

I'm not evil, but if I were, history would vindicate me.

[garbon]

I am a bit surprised this is news.  I thought this came out awhile ago.

I am wondering what it is that is finally making this matter come to a head now. It has been a not so secret, secret for quite some time.

[derspiess]

I knew he had a history of harassment and cheating on his wife, but possibly 20 or more incidents of rape was news to me.

[Malthus]

I am a bit surprised this is news.  I thought this came out awhile ago.

I am wondering what it is that is finally making this matter come to a head now. It has been a not so secret, secret for quite some time.

Read some speculation that the catalyst was the whole Gomeshi thing happening up in Canada - this would have a bigger impact on media types than on the general pop.

[Martinus]

I am a bit surprised this is news.  I thought this came out awhile ago.

I am wondering what it is that is finally making this matter come to a head now. It has been a not so secret, secret for quite some time.

It seems like people commenting on a joke made by Hannibal Buress started it. Which seems quite random, especially as Buress apparently has been making that joke for a while now in his stand-up routine.

[Martinus]

I am a bit surprised this is news.  I thought this came out awhile ago.

I am wondering what it is that is finally making this matter come to a head now. It has been a not so secret, secret for quite some time.

Read some speculation that the catalyst was the whole Gomeshi thing happening up in Canada - this would have a bigger impact on media types than on the general pop.

Hmmm. I listen to a couple of podcasts made by American comedians, where they discuss various comedy gossip, among others, and the Gomeshi thing was never mentioned. On the other hand, the joke by Buress (and the subsequent reaction to it) was widely commented on, starting from about mid-October. It seems like it was a pebble that started the avalanche, as the initial reaction from some quarters was that Buress is an upstart nobody trying to get publicity by besmirching Cosby. This seems to have led to a much stronger backlash going along the lines of "wait a minute, he is right, isn't he?"

Then it made it to the mainstream media, which triggered some victim testimonies it seems. Then Netflix dropped Cosby like a hot potato, and Jon Stuart made a joke about it. At which point Cosby was pretty much a toast.

[CountDeMoney]

Hmmm. I listen to a couple of podcasts made by American comedians, where they discuss various comedy gossip, among others, and the Gomeshi thing was never mentioned.

I've endorsed it before, but Mark Maron's "WTF" podcast delves a lot into the LA scene, the industry of comedy writing and the bigger Hollywood/Chicago/NYC biz.  It's an interesting take on the industry, especially when he brings on fellow comics that have been there.

[Martinus]

Hmmm. I listen to a couple of podcasts made by American comedians, where they discuss various comedy gossip, among others, and the Gomeshi thing was never mentioned.

I've endorsed it before, but Mark Maron's "WTF" podcast delves a lot into the LA scene, the industry of comedy writing and the bigger Hollywood/Chicago/NYC biz.  It's an interesting take on the industry, especially when he brings on fellow comics that have been there.

Yeah, I listen to that one occassionally, though I prefer Red Bar Radio, which is more niche/irreverent (it is run by an ex-comedy-club owner/producer who is based in Chicago). The host often refers to Mark Maron's "WTF". Thanks to RBR, I even know who Buress is in the first place (a lot of these guys were guests on RBR 5-6 years ago, before they got famous - for some reason a shitload of US comedians come originally from the Chicago scene).

[CountDeMoney]

for some reason a shitload of US comedians come originally from the Chicago scene).

That's where Second City is.

[Valmy]

Chicago is a cultural center in the US (despite its large Polish population) and is especially famous for its live improv and sketch comedy like Second City.

[Martinus]

Chicago is a cultural center in the US (despite its large Polish population) and is especially famous for its live improv and sketch comedy like Second City.

Nice edit.

[Valmy]

Chicago is a cultural center in the US (despite its large Polish population) and is especially famous for its live improv and sketch comedy like Second City.

Nice edit.

I thought a shoutout to your people was appropriate

[Malthus]

I am a bit surprised this is news.  I thought this came out awhile ago.

I am wondering what it is that is finally making this matter come to a head now. It has been a not so secret, secret for quite some time.

Read some speculation that the catalyst was the whole Gomeshi thing happening up in Canada - this would have a bigger impact on media types than on the general pop.

Hmmm. I listen to a couple of podcasts made by American comedians, where they discuss various comedy gossip, among others, and the Gomeshi thing was never mentioned. On the other hand, the joke by Buress (and the subsequent reaction to it) was widely commented on, starting from about mid-October. It seems like it was a pebble that started the avalanche, as the initial reaction from some quarters was that Buress is an upstart nobody trying to get publicity by besmirching Cosby. This seems to have led to a much stronger backlash going along the lines of "wait a minute, he is right, isn't he?"

Then it made it to the mainstream media, which triggered some victim testimonies it seems. Then Netflix dropped Cosby like a hot potato, and Jon Stuart made a joke about it. At which point Cosby was pretty much a toast.

Here's an article arguing for the connection.

http://www.salon.com/2014/11/17/dirty_little_open_secrets_how_the_jian_ghomeshi_scandal_helped_turn_the_tide_against_bill_cosby/

[garbon]

I am a bit surprised this is news.  I thought this came out awhile ago.

I am wondering what it is that is finally making this matter come to a head now. It has been a not so secret, secret for quite some time.

Read some speculation that the catalyst was the whole Gomeshi thing happening up in Canada - this would have a bigger impact on media types than on the general pop.

Hmmm. I listen to a couple of podcasts made by American comedians, where they discuss various comedy gossip, among others, and the Gomeshi thing was never mentioned. On the other hand, the joke by Buress (and the subsequent reaction to it) was widely commented on, starting from about mid-October. It seems like it was a pebble that started the avalanche, as the initial reaction from some quarters was that Buress is an upstart nobody trying to get publicity by besmirching Cosby. This seems to have led to a much stronger backlash going along the lines of "wait a minute, he is right, isn't he?"

Then it made it to the mainstream media, which triggered some victim testimonies it seems. Then Netflix dropped Cosby like a hot potato, and Jon Stuart made a joke about it. At which point Cosby was pretty much a toast.

Here's an article arguing for the connection.

http://www.salon.com/2014/11/17/dirty_little_open_secrets_how_the_jian_ghomeshi_scandal_helped_turn_the_tide_against_bill_cosby/

It doesn't really argue much of a connection though - more like it just notes that as an assertion. Really it fails to support its headline.