In space, no one can hear you nagging

[Admiral Yi]

He's a nerd who's primary job is to do science stuff, not talk to the press.  The shirt in question is not one he wears regularly around female coworkers; it's a celebration shirt.

The appropriate response is a chuckle about tackiness and bad taste, not screeching and pillorying.

And the women on it aren't very hott.

[Sheilbh]

As for wearing a suit and tie - I don't think that's necessary (much as I like them), though having that as a default would have avoiding the guy embarrassing himself like that.

I'm not saying they're linked. But the decline of the West does seem to be coincidental with the rise of casual workplaces. I'm just raising that.

Also you're right in general a suit is a great way to avoid embarrassment (unless it's a bad suit), but I once had a job interview at a media firm and went in my usual suit-tie look. It was like walking in naked the looks I got

[crazy canuck]

Yeah, like eating (he managed to keep himself fed); getting to work (somehow his one track mind managed that) and it looks like he even managed to shower and groom himself now and then.  Is it too much to ask that he manage to dress himself properly or is he really that mentally compromised.

He was dressed properly. He just wasn't dressed to your arbitrary standards.

If you think its my arbitrary standard, you need to get out a bit more.

[Ideologue]

It seems to me that if you care about women in STEM

I can't tell if it's progressive or not that the concept gives me an erection.

[Ideologue]

As for wearing a suit and tie - I don't think that's necessary (much as I like them), though having that as a default would have avoiding the guy embarrassing himself like that.

Suits and ties are a fuckload more identified with the patriarchy than some dumbassed shirt.

[Eddie Teach]

Suits and ties are a fuckload more identified with the patriarchy than some dumbassed shirt.

The shirt is presumably more comfortable though.

[Ideologue]

Also true.

[Jacob]

He's a nerd who's primary job is to do science stuff, not talk to the press.  The shirt in question is not one he wears regularly around female coworkers; it's a celebration shirt.

The appropriate response is a chuckle about tackiness and bad taste, not screeching and pillorying.

And the women on it aren't very hott.

I agree with this, except that I think screeching is fine (though not pillorying).

[Maximus]

If you think its my arbitrary standard, you need to get out a bit more.

That wasn't a singular "you".

[Martinus]

To me, it is quite sexist to judge a man not on his intellectual achievements, but on the clothes he wears.

[Maximus]

Naw, just narrowminded.

[Siege]

I have so much power running through my veins...

[Razgovory]

Yeah, like eating (he managed to keep himself fed); getting to work (somehow his one track mind managed that) and it looks like he even managed to shower and groom himself now and then.  Is it too much to ask that he manage to dress himself properly or is he really that mentally compromised.

He was dressed properly. He just wasn't dressed to your arbitrary standards.

What are your arbitrary standards?

[frunk]

Yeah, like eating (he managed to keep himself fed); getting to work (somehow his one track mind managed that) and it looks like he even managed to shower and groom himself now and then.  Is it too much to ask that he manage to dress himself properly or is he really that mentally compromised.

It's a matter of what you pay attention to.  Before he ever thought that he would have to dress differently for TV he'd have to realize that there are actually people who care about how you dress.  Even worse, a lot of these people with nothing better to do watch TV.  Eating, getting to work, wearing clothes is a more common experience.

[crazy canuck]

If you think its my arbitrary standard, you need to get out a bit more.

That wasn't a singular "you".

If society has a view that it is inappropriate and unprofessional for someone to wear a shirt with naked women at work and particularly when being interviewed on behalf of an entire organization that is, by definition, not arbitrary.  That is called a societal norm.

I note you have now deviated from your original argument.  You had argued that he didnt have enough brain power left over to realize he was being daft.  Now you seem to be arguing that the standard to which he is being held is inappropriate.

Your argument is getting worse.