Putin Revisionism of the Day

[Tonitrus]

From the article, the quotes are correct.  They leave out a second point he makes immediately after, that the USSR knew war was inevitable and needed all the time they could possibly get to modernize and deploy their new weapon systems (T-34, Katyusha rockets).  Implying that justified the M-R Pact.

That's a bunch of crap.

I'm not making any judgements, just translating. 

[Admiral Yi]

Gouge out the dragoman's eyes and cast him in the dungeon!

[Tonitrus]

He goes on to talk about WWI and how the Russian offensive in the East(even though a defeat) saved Paris.

[Tonitrus]

Some kid keeps blabbering on about 14-15th century mongol weaponry and the effect of firearms on middle age armor, with Putin trying to politely shut him up and move to another topic and failing. 

[Ed Anger]

Some kid keeps blabbering on about 14-15th century mongol weaponry and the effect of firearms on middle age armor, with Putin trying to politely shut him up and move to another topic and failing. 

A slavotard from Paradox!

[Admiral Yi]

Squeelus?

[Razgovory]

He goes on to talk about WWI and how the Russian offensive in the East(even though a defeat) saved Paris.

Well, there is a decent argument there.  The Russian invasion of Prussia scared the hell out of Germany, and caused them to shift two corps to the East at a critical time.

[Sophie Scholl]

In a weird way, is he suggesting that the west should stand up for Ukraine and not sell them out to an aggressor?  The way he describes it, he's basically putting Russia in the place of Germany and Ukraine in the place of Czechoslovakia.  At least that's how I read it on a tired brain.

[grumbler]

AIR, Hitler was planning on the war starting in 1944 or so.

You're good with the sources of obscure quotes;  I can't remember which one it was, but which German general was it that said, at the time of Barbarossa, that "this is the war we were promised we weren't supposed to have until 1944"?

That sounds like Raeder in 1939, actually.

[DontSayBanana]

I'm fairly certain there was a front against Hitler.  It was called the United Nations and it worked.

So effective it went back in time and stopped Hitler 7 months before it was even formed!

[Agelastus]

I'm fairly certain there was a front against Hitler.  It was called the United Nations and it worked.

So effective it went back in time and stopped Hitler 7 months before it was even formed!

The term goes back to the Arcadia conference of 1941-2. It predates the formal organisation in existence today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_by_United_Nations

[CountDeMoney]

That sounds like Raeder in 1939, actually.

So typical of Google, it's like Timmay is running it:

Search: General Raeder Quotes 1939

Did you mean:

General Dreedle quotes

General Ripper quotes

[celedhring]

Admiral Raeder might work a wee bit better.

[CountDeMoney]

SON OF A

[Ed Anger]

Whoosh