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Started by jimmy olsen, June 13, 2009, 05:07:13 PM

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Jaron

Quote from: Berkut on June 15, 2009, 01:00:22 PM
Quote from: Jaron on June 15, 2009, 12:31:10 PM
I hope they don't go the WoW route with tank, damage, healer, but ultimately I think something like that will emerge.



:lmfao:

Kids these days.

Sorry. :D
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 14, 2009, 10:49:12 PM
A general star wars question here. Powerful Sith can use force lightning but I don't think I've ever seen a Jedi Knight use it. Is there an ability that a powerful Jedi can use that a Sith lord can't?

Yes -- Awful, cringe-worthy dialogue.

Sith lords can try to use it, but they just don't get enough screen time to be truly effective.
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Drakken

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Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 14, 2009, 10:49:12 PM
A general star wars question here. Powerful Sith can use force lightning but I don't think I've ever seen a Jedi Knight use it. Is there an ability that a powerful Jedi can use that a Sith lord can't?

From the movies? None explicitely, although we see Yoda absorb Palpatine's Force Lightning with his two hands. That said:

Obi-Wan gesturing to manipulate a stormtrooper in ANH seems also to be LS only.

Force Ghost seems to be Jedi-only, at least from the movies, although in KoToR the hero gets to meet the Force Ghost of Ajunta Pall inside his tomb on Korriban.

Sheilbh

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 15, 2009, 02:30:26 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 14, 2009, 10:49:12 PM
A general star wars question here. Powerful Sith can use force lightning but I don't think I've ever seen a Jedi Knight use it. Is there an ability that a powerful Jedi can use that a Sith lord can't?

Yes -- Awful, cringe-worthy dialogue.

Sith lords can try to use it, but they just don't get enough screen time to be truly effective.
Poor, poor Alec Guinness :(
Let's bomb Russia!

Drakken

#49
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 15, 2009, 08:19:27 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 15, 2009, 02:30:26 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 14, 2009, 10:49:12 PM
A general star wars question here. Powerful Sith can use force lightning but I don't think I've ever seen a Jedi Knight use it. Is there an ability that a powerful Jedi can use that a Sith lord can't?

Yes -- Awful, cringe-worthy dialogue.

Sith lords can try to use it, but they just don't get enough screen time to be truly effective.
Poor, poor Alec Guinness :(

With 2% of ANH's profits on his contract sign-up, Sir Alec was far from poor after SW. In fact, it allowed him to cherrypick his future roles without fearing poverty.  :thumbsup:

In fact, he is one of the few who thought that SW would become a blockbuster success, hence the 2% clause. What depressed him was the nerdage fanbase who would remember him only for Obi-Wan and who would relentlessly hound him.

Syt

Quote from: Drakken on June 15, 2009, 09:14:48 PM
With 2% of ANH's profits on his contract sign-up, Sir Alec was far from poor after SW. In fact, it allowed him to cherrypick his future roles without fearing poverty.  :thumbsup:

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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Sheilbh on June 15, 2009, 08:19:27 PM
Poor, poor Alec Guinness :(

Really though - that's what classic, Shakespearean Brit actors are for.  Give them the worst dialogue written and they can still say it with conviction.  Patrick Stewart made a living out of that for years.  Ian McKellan just figured out the money to made in that racket a little more recently.
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MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Berkut on June 15, 2009, 01:00:22 PM
Quote from: Jaron on June 15, 2009, 12:31:10 PM
I hope they don't go the WoW route with tank, damage, healer, but ultimately I think something like that will emerge.



:lmfao:

Kids these days.


:P

The concern is spot on, though. These games have become so formulaic now. They box you into a role so you're both able to complement other players' characters and also dependent on them as well. The problem is that limits your freedom to explore and do what you want. So you get tired of it. Then they have to write seventy bazillion quests to keep you occupied. In the end, it's like a train. You can control how fast or slow it goes, but you can only go where the tracks lead.

The differences between the major MMOs now are mostly just cosmetic.
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viper37

Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 14, 2009, 10:49:12 PM
A general star wars question here. Powerful Sith can use force lightning but I don't think I've ever seen a Jedi Knight use it. Is there an ability that a powerful Jedi can use that a Sith lord can't?
Healing.
And Jedi are not incapable of using force ligthning, but they chose no to kill with the Force.


Quote from: Drakken on June 15, 2009, 03:11:58 PM
From the movies? None explicitely, although we see Yoda absorb Palpatine's Force Lightning with his two hands. That said:

Obi-Wan gesturing to manipulate a stormtrooper in ANH seems also to be LS only.

Force Ghost seems to be Jedi-only, at least from the movies, although in KoToR the hero gets to meet the Force Ghost of Ajunta Pall inside his tomb on Korriban.
Darth Vader absorbed the blaster shot with his hand.

And manipulating the mind can be done for anyone with the Force.  Just look at Palpatine from the movies.
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Jedi choose to be the secret police of the Republic, using their mind tricks to oppress the citizenry.

They ain't that innocent.
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Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Ed Anger on June 16, 2009, 02:42:27 PM
Jedi choose to be the secret police of the Republic, using their mind tricks to oppress the citizenry.

They ain't that innocent.
They are the Republic's high priests, and guard that position jealously. :(
PDH!

Ed Anger

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 16, 2009, 03:11:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 16, 2009, 02:42:27 PM
Jedi choose to be the secret police of the Republic, using their mind tricks to oppress the citizenry.

They ain't that innocent.
They are the Republic's high priests, and guard that position jealously. :(

The hammer of the proletariat shall smash their oppression.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Sheilbh

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 16, 2009, 09:25:11 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 15, 2009, 08:19:27 PM
Poor, poor Alec Guinness :(

Really though - that's what classic, Shakespearean Brit actors are for.  Give them the worst dialogue written and they can still say it with conviction.  Patrick Stewart made a living out of that for years.  Ian McKellan just figured out the money to made in that racket a little more recently.
That's true :mellow:
Let's bomb Russia!

Neil

Quote from: Sheilbh on June 16, 2009, 05:28:00 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 16, 2009, 09:25:11 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 15, 2009, 08:19:27 PM
Poor, poor Alec Guinness :(

Really though - that's what classic, Shakespearean Brit actors are for.  Give them the worst dialogue written and they can still say it with conviction.  Patrick Stewart made a living out of that for years.  Ian McKellan just figured out the money to made in that racket a little more recently.
That's true :mellow:
I don't see how you can feel bad for him.
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jimmy olsen

#59
Quote from: viper37 on June 16, 2009, 02:39:42 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 14, 2009, 10:49:12 PM
A general star wars question here. Powerful Sith can use force lightning but I don't think I've ever seen a Jedi Knight use it. Is there an ability that a powerful Jedi can use that a Sith lord can't?
Healing.
And Jedi are not incapable of using force ligthning, but they chose no to kill with the Force.

That's bullshit, what's the moral difference between using a lightsaber to kill someone and using force lightning? After all only someone skilled in the use of the force can use a lightsaber correctly.
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