The Old Republic - Holy F*cking Crap!

[Jaron]

True, very true.

[Darth Wagtaros]

This will be a disappointment like KOTOR2.  I predict fail on an Epic level with a 30% chance of Suck.

[garbon]

I predict that Wag's spitefulness will cause him to develop an ulcer.

[DisturbedPervert]

Watched the trailer, still have no idea what kind of game they are supposed to be showing off. 

[Neil]

It's being done in Austin.  Almost nobody in the Edmonton studio is involved.

Personally, I don't have much hope.  They've done some interesting stuff, but ultimately a Star Wars MMORPG suffers from the fact that everyone will play a Jedi or a Sith.  And although they're doing some work to mitigate the total lack of story in a MMORPG, ultimately you can't tell a compelling story in the genre.

[Darth Wagtaros]

I predict that Wag's spitefulness will cause him to develop an ulcer.

  I don't think there's room for another under all the scar tissue.

How am I being spiteful?  It looks cool.  But I don't see it going anywhere.

[jimmy olsen]

I'm not. Come on, the Matrix was like..what, 10 years ago or something? And people are still trying to rip off their cheap effects like it has any place in Star Wars.

LAME!!!

I enjoyed that trailer more than the entire prequel trilogy.

[Jaron]

I'm not. Come on, the Matrix was like..what, 10 years ago or something? And people are still trying to rip off their cheap effects like it has any place in Star Wars.

LAME!!!

I enjoyed that trailer more than the entire prequel trilogy.

Yeah, you also enjoy anime so that doesn't count for much.

[Syt]

Personally, I don't have much hope.  They've done some interesting stuff, but ultimately a Star Wars MMORPG suffers from the fact that everyone will play a Jedi or a Sith.  And although they're doing some work to mitigate the total lack of story in a MMORPG, ultimately you can't tell a compelling story in the genre.

Well, LotRO shows how to put a story into an MMO (with their Epic Quest Line), so I think the devs have an example how to do it. Yes, everyone wants to be a jedi, which is one of the reasons why Star Wars Galaxies failed so badly. Moving into the Old Republic era which is still (reasonably) fresh is a good idea. From looking at the site they'll take WoW's two factioon approach, too - sith and jedi. Four classes for each side doesn't look like much, but as said - most people will want to play a jedi/sith; next in line will be bounty hunters. Soldiers? Heh. Personally, I would have favored a system where you choose a type of jedi (tank, healer, dps ...) as class, with maybe bounty hunters as a 4th or 5th class.

[Solmyr]

I'll be surprised if you can do half of the things shown in the trailer in the actual game.

[Syt]

I'll be surprised if you can do half of the things shown in the trailer in the actual game.

Well, it will probably have as much relation to the actual game graphics or gameplay as the old WoW trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGvzz-CtKv0

[DisturbedPervert]

Well, it will probably have as much relation to the actual game graphics or gameplay as the old WoW trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGvzz-CtKv0

Which is why I hate trailers like this.  They give you no idea what the game is actually like.

[Drakken]

It's being done in Austin.  Almost nobody in the Edmonton studio is involved.

Personally, I don't have much hope.  They've done some interesting stuff, but ultimately a Star Wars MMORPG suffers from the fact that everyone will play a Jedi or a Sith.  And although they're doing some work to mitigate the total lack of story in a MMORPG, ultimately you can't tell a compelling story in the genre.+

Anyone can play a Jedi or a Sith. This is not the same BS as in SWG. However, from what I see in their forums BHs seem to be very in demand as well.

My biggest gripe, however, is diverging affiliation from faction. I can see an argument for DS force-users in the Republic, yeah sure fallen Jedi and all that shit. But LS force-users working for the Sith Empire?! WTF?! How can there be LS Siths in an Evil Empire founded on Sith codes and beliefs, with a Sith Academy making its best to make sure every Sith force-user is deep into the DS? I mean, what LS-user can survive on Korriban for more than a day without falling to the DS?!

And don't start me on the whole "Gray Jedi" bullshit...

I've already decided that I would play a VERY DS Sith Lord, and I will hunt down all these Gray, LS wannabees inside the Sith. There is no place in the Sith Empire for goody-goody two shoes, and I will make sure that each of them are destroyed until it becomes very unhealthy for someone not DS to live in Sith space.

What impresses me the most. however, is the fact that they want to introduce hundreds of hours of storyline for each class AND each faction, with voiceovers for both NPCs and PCs, and not one line reused for another class or faction.  I can't wait to see how it will develop. In their words it is to be KOTOR 3,4,5, until ad infinitum online. 

[Grey Fox]

I'll play the Empire, Sith or something else. I'll kill everyone all the time.

[jimmy olsen]

A general star wars question here. Powerful Sith can use force lightning but I don't think I've ever seen a Jedi Knight use it. Is there an ability that a powerful Jedi can use that a Sith lord can't?