The Straight, White, Middle-Class Man Needs to Be Dethroned

Started by Martinus, October 12, 2014, 02:08:44 PM

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mongers

#30
October 12, 2014, 06:25:19 PM
I think public school together with upper class status are either or both still more important in the UK, than race or sexual orientation in the context described in the OP.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Razgovory

#31
October 12, 2014, 07:29:55 PM
I don't mind being "dethroned".  Of course I would like to have a throne first.  Maybe try it out for a few years.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Richard Hakluyt

#32
October 12, 2014, 07:52:37 PM
Incidentally, the Grayson Perry article was originally in the New Statesman and is part of an issue that he guest-edited.

http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2014/10/grayson-perry-rise-and-fall-default-man

Tonitrus

#33
October 12, 2014, 08:19:30 PM
It's hard being the king.  :(

Martinus

#34
October 13, 2014, 12:53:32 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on October 12, 2014, 04:03:15 PM
Quote from: Viking on October 12, 2014, 03:55:24 PM
How the hell does "middle-class" get included in this power ranking? Perhaps only to get the numbers up.

Middle class men work in offices in thankless often pointless jobs usually victims of the seemingly directionless random whims of fortune as the UPPER CLASS twits who run the world play their game of directorships.

Marty, this way only communism.
He's from a Communist country.  He grew up that way.  Probably believes in it.

Really?  :rolleyes:

Habbaku

#35
October 13, 2014, 01:04:59 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on October 12, 2014, 02:29:31 PM
.......and you are Irish CdM and I did a stretch as a coal miner...........we are united in wictimhood  :w00t:

lol "wictim".
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

Tamas

#36
October 13, 2014, 03:37:50 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 13, 2014, 12:53:32 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on October 12, 2014, 04:03:15 PM
Quote from: Viking on October 12, 2014, 03:55:24 PM
How the hell does "middle-class" get included in this power ranking? Perhaps only to get the numbers up.

Middle class men work in offices in thankless often pointless jobs usually victims of the seemingly directionless random whims of fortune as the UPPER CLASS twits who run the world play their game of directorships.

Marty, this way only communism.
He's from a Communist country.  He grew up that way.  Probably believes in it.

Really?  :rolleyes:

Hey, you are quoting communist mottos in the other thread, and then this article... Plus considering your hard-on for the Pope, and its clear you are fast-way to become the absolute classic Eastern European middle-aged man: bigot and socialist.

Siege

#37
October 14, 2014, 09:27:47 PM
So, is Marty a communist in disguise?


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"

Valmy

#38
October 14, 2014, 09:32:15 PM
The middle class is being destroyed and wages are stagnating and unemployment is high all over the first world.  The middle class has not been on a throne for quite some time.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

#39
October 14, 2014, 09:34:46 PM
Quote from: Viking on October 12, 2014, 03:55:24 PM
How the hell does "middle-class" get included in this power ranking? Perhaps only to get the numbers up.

Middle class men work in offices in thankless often pointless jobs usually victims of the seemingly directionless random whims of fortune as the UPPER CLASS twits who run the world play their game of directorships.

Marty, this way only communism.

Yeah...why do the losers need to be toppled from their thrones and not the people on the actual thrones?  Bizarre.  Are the straight white male temp workers or migrant farm hands need to be taken down a peg or two next?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

derspiess

#40
October 14, 2014, 09:37:41 PM
Ed spends a lot of time on the throne.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Valmy

#41
October 14, 2014, 09:38:10 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 14, 2014, 09:37:41 PM
Ed spends a lot of time on the throne.

Yeah but he is not Middle Class.  Middle Class people work for a living.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

#42
October 14, 2014, 09:46:31 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 12, 2014, 02:08:44 PM
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A jokey title, yes, but one making a serious point: that perhaps, if men were to loosen their grip on power, there might be some benefits for them.

Ok where is my agency in that?  I don't any power and having people who look like me have power doesn't seem to be doing me much good.  I mean sure I have the privilege of not putting up with as much bullshit as other people, but putting up with less shit seems like a strange privilege or power.  I would rather everybody just didn't have to put up with shit.  But hey sure lets somehow erm...loosen my grip on power. 
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Tonitrus

#43
October 14, 2014, 09:48:51 PM
I think people nowadays just like dethroning everybody.

Valmy

#44
October 14, 2014, 09:56:31 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 12, 2014, 03:23:18 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 12, 2014, 03:21:18 PM
I was under the impression that gays tend to be higher educated and make more money on average than the rest of the population anyway?

Yeah. So why so few of Fortune 500 CEOs are (openly) gay? Surely at least 5% should be (the conservative estimate).

Because CEOs tend to be older?  I guess I would be more interested in how many of the junior executives and the people on their way up are gay.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."
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