Columbia student carrying mattress until school expels her rapist

[Admiral Yi]

I find your statement perplexing as well Jacob.

[DGuller]

We have from the girl that she was raped too.

Statement against interest.

[Jacob]

I find your statement perplexing as well Jacob.

I'm waiting for Spicy to answer my question, since I did him the courtesy of answering his straight up.

How about you, do you believe her? I'm assuming the answer is "no"?

[Admiral Yi]

I see no reason to believe she is telling the truth. 

[derspiess]

Do you believe her claim?

I don't see any reason not to.

Do you believe her?

Not really, no.

[Jacob]

Do you believe her claim?

I don't see any reason not to.

Do you believe her?

Not really, no.

Yeah, that would have been my guess.

I'm guessing a lot of the responses to this case maps to whether people think fake rape accusations and attention whoring is something that happens more and/or is a bigger deal vs actual rapes happing and not being dealt with appropriately.

[Jacob]

I find your statement perplexing as well Jacob.

Since Spicy obliged ...

What about my statement perplexes you?

[derspiess]

I'm guessing a lot of the responses to this case maps to whether people think fake rape accusations and attention whoring is something that happens more and/or is a bigger deal vs actual rapes happing and not being dealt with appropriately.

What if we think both are big problems?  Is that not possible?  I happen to think they are closely linked, since false claims don't just hurt the falsely accused-- they affect all women as well.

[Admiral Yi]

What about my statement perplexes you?

More or less what grumbler said.  You seem to be totally disregarding a lot of evidence.

[derspiess]

I find your statement perplexing as well Jacob.

Since Spicy obliged ...

Sorry for the 21-minute delay there 

[Martim Silva]

I haven't read all replies, but do tell me: rape cases in US universities ARE handed over to the police, right?

(can't imagine a scenario where allegations of a crime won't be handed over to the proper authorities).

As for this particular case, from my experience raped women tend very much to avoid contact with anything that reminds them of what happened to them. And therefore walking around with a mattress where she was supposedly raped strikes me as very odd (not to mention her behaviour).

I am skeptical of the claims 

[grumbler]

I'm guessing a lot of the responses to this case maps to whether people think fake rape accusations and attention whoring is something that happens more and/or is a bigger deal vs actual rapes happing and not being dealt with appropriately.

I'm guessing that that is not true.  You may respond to each case based on your beliefs about the relationships between false rape accusations and real rapes, but I'd bet more people are like me, and look at each story separately, as though the victims and perps (of either sort) were individuals.

[Admiral Yi]

I haven't read all replies, but do tell me: rape cases in US universities ARE handed over to the police, right?

It would appear its up to the victim to take the matter up with the police.  It's not done automatically by the university.

[Rasputin]

iirc hitler supported making fun of those who carry mattreses

[CountDeMoney]

I dont see why the NYPD needs to be dragged into a case involving assplay that doesnt involve Haitian immigrants.