Dispatches from the State Ministry of Truth

[Jacob]

There are.

Hmmm... maybe they should consider adapting that in Hong Kong then. That might alleviate some of these difficulties.

[Admiral Yi]

Hmmm... maybe they should consider adapting that in Hong Kong then. That might alleviate some of these difficulties.

Unless I'm mistaken, Hong Kong has a free press, freedom of speech, and freedom of peaceful assembly.

[Monoriu]

Hmmm... maybe they should consider adapting that in Hong Kong then. That might alleviate some of these difficulties.

Unless I'm mistaken, Hong Kong has a free press, freedom of speech, and freedom of peaceful assembly.

That is correct.

[Martinus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Hong_Kong

It seems freedom of press is questionable.

[frunk]

Unless I'm mistaken, Hong Kong has a free press, freedom of speech, and freedom of peaceful assembly.

Are any of those a system of governance?

[Martinus]

Hmmm... maybe they should consider adapting that in Hong Kong then. That might alleviate some of these difficulties.

Unless I'm mistaken, Hong Kong has a free press, freedom of speech, and freedom of peaceful assembly.

So does Russia.

[Monoriu]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Hong_Kong

It seems freedom of press is questionable.

According to the link to the press freedom index compiled by Reporters Without Borders, our ranking is about the same as Japan, and ahead of Israel and EU countries like Greece and Hungary.  What more do you want?  Of course some people will be unhappy with individual incidents.  AppleDaily, a major newspaper in HK, is blatently anti-government in all its news reports. 

2014:

the US: 46th
Italy: 49th
Japan: 59th
HK: 61st
Hungary: 64th
Israel: 96th
Greece: 99th
Russia: 148th
Singapore: 150th

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index

[Monoriu]

Hmmm... maybe they should consider adapting that in Hong Kong then. That might alleviate some of these difficulties.

Unless I'm mistaken, Hong Kong has a free press, freedom of speech, and freedom of peaceful assembly.

So does Russia.

Search "1 July protests" then.  Every year, hundreds of thousands legally march against the government on that day.  Don't trust me, google it yourself.

[Monoriu]

Infighting has broken out among the rioters.  Faced with an impending government deadline to ensure that government HQs is open for Monday tomorrow, some want to retreat and regroup, while others want to take a hard line.  Tons of conflicting news on whether they will withdraw or not.  Different factions blame each other for betrayal. 

I have no idea what will happen tonight.  The only thing I am certain, is that I will go to work tomorrow.  Or at least, try to.  I am beginning to worry about the personal safety of my wife and I.  Did anybody die when the Reichstag was burnt down in the thirties?  We work inside the largest and most prominent symbol of HK government's power.  I will check the fire evacuation route tomorrow.  I used to never bother with these things. 

[Eddie Teach]

What would the Chinese government have to gain from burning down your building? 

[Monoriu]

What would the Chinese government have to gain from burning down your building? 

The rioters.  Some of them are getting increasingly radical. 

[Eddie Teach]

Do you believe the communists were responsible for the Reichstag fire? 

[Monoriu]

Do you believe the communists were responsible for the Reichstag fire? 

No, of course not.  That's not very reassuring though. 

[Jacob]

Unless I'm mistaken, Hong Kong has a free press, freedom of speech, and freedom of peaceful assembly.

Are any of those a system of governance?

Don't confuse him.

[Valmy]

Hmmm... maybe they should consider adapting that in Hong Kong then. That might alleviate some of these difficulties.

Unless I'm mistaken, Hong Kong has a free press, freedom of speech, and freedom of peaceful assembly.

Anyway it sounds like your freedom to peaceful assembly requires some sort of police permission.