Franklin Expedition Ship Found

[Josephus]

By the by, AMC has finally greenlit The Terror.

Based on the book by Dan Simmons, the 10-part series is a story about the crew of The Terror and um, the other ship, and how they were stalked by a giant polar bear.

No really, the book is better than it sounds.

Apparently this is an ongoing problem: From CNN today:

Polar bears trap scientists in remote Arctic
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/14/world/polar-bears-trap-scientists/index.html

So not so far fetched.

[CountDeMoney]

Yeah, all that arctic ice melting that is forcing polar bears from their natural hunting grounds out on the floes must be a real inconvenience.

[Drakken]

[Razgovory]

Man proposes God disposes.

[Barrister]

Yeah, all that arctic ice melting that is forcing polar bears from their natural hunting grounds out on the floes must be a real inconvenience.

Polar bears have always been a menace to man in the Arctic.  They have little to no fear of humans and will gladly hunt you for food.

Brizzlies and black bears on the other hand don't see us as food sources, and will only attack if startled or frightened.

[viper37]

Yeah, all that arctic ice melting that is forcing polar bears from their natural hunting grounds out on the floes must be a real inconvenience.

Polar bears have always been a menace to man in the Arctic.  They have little to no fear of humans and will gladly hunt you for food.

Brizzlies and black bears on the other hand don't see us as food sources, and will only attack if startled or frightened.

black bears can be really dangerous in spring, when they just woke up and they're really hungry.  But during summer, and even fall, nope, there's plenty of food, they have made their reserves, and they don't want to expand too much energy running after a prey.

Grizzlys can be very territorial from what I hear.  If someone is in front of him, he will charge to remove the obstacle.

[CountDeMoney]

Polar bears have always been a menace to man in the Arctic.  They have little to no fear of humans and will gladly hunt you for food.

Well guess what, Marlin Perkins: thanks to global warming and the shrinking of their hunting range, what polar bears that haven't drowned yet are even more of a menace to man.  Asshole.

Brizzlies and black bears on the other hand don't see us as food sources, and will only attack if startled or frightened.

Their food sources and ability to reach the haven't disappeared with the ice, nor have their cub mortality rates in the first year of life dropped over 20% in the last 15 years due to drowning.  Wake me when the Rockies start to melt.  Asshole.

[Razgovory]

By the by, AMC has finally greenlit The Terror.

Based on the book by Dan Simmons, the 10-part series is a story about the crew of The Terror and um, the other ship, and how they were stalked by a giant polar bear.

No really, the book is better than it sounds.

In the novel the book the boat is blown up, so the find kind of throws a spanner into that.  It was a good novel for about two-thirds of the length.  At some point, the author forgot what he was doing and starts going off on strange tangents.  For instance, we suddenly cut to three sisters who make knocking sounds with their knees. The characters are real people but have no relation to what's going on the in rest of the book.

[Josephus]

By the by, AMC has finally greenlit The Terror.

Based on the book by Dan Simmons, the 10-part series is a story about the crew of The Terror and um, the other ship, and how they were stalked by a giant polar bear.

No really, the book is better than it sounds.

In the novel the book the boat is blown up, so the find kind of throws a spanner into that.  It was a good novel for about two-thirds of the length.  At some point, the author forgot what he was doing and starts going off on strange tangents.  For instance, we suddenly cut to three sisters who make knocking sounds with their knees. The characters are real people but have no relation to what's going on the in rest of the book.

The last chapter is really weird.

[Valmy]

black bears can be really dangerous in spring, when they just woke up and they're really hungry.  But during summer, and even fall, nope, there's plenty of food, they have made their reserves, and they don't want to expand too much energy running after a prey.

But black bears are so small. Can they really kill you? Perhaps dangerous to children.

Though granted black bears in Texas might be really small compared to black bears further north.

[Malthus]

black bears can be really dangerous in spring, when they just woke up and they're really hungry.  But during summer, and even fall, nope, there's plenty of food, they have made their reserves, and they don't want to expand too much energy running after a prey.

But black bears are so small. Can they really kill you? Perhaps dangerous to children.

Though granted black bears in Texas might be really small compared to black bears further north.

Black bears can certainly kill people, but attacks on people by them are very rare. They are more of a nuisance than a danger.

We had a bear break into our cabin's screen porch (busting the screen) while we were away. It was, for some reason, attracted to a pressurized can of mosquito repellant. It bit into this. That must have been a ... highly unpleasant experience for it. 

I've run across Black bears out walking several times, always with the same result: I back off, and so does the bear.

Grizzlies are far more dangerous, and Polar Bears more dangerous again.

[Valmy]

The two times I have seen a black bear, both in parks in West Texas, they have quickly run off. Very shy. But granted they were almost extinct in Texas at one point so probably wise of them.

[Malthus]

The two times I have seen a black bear, both in parks in West Texas, they have quickly run off. Very shy. But granted they were almost extinct in Texas at one point so probably wise of them.

Heh. An outfit that ran its operations from the same docking area our family launches its boat from in Northern Quebec ran a "bear hunting" business for tourists, twenty or so years ago. The details were pretty grim.

Apparently, what they did (to assure each tourist bagged a bear) was set up regular feeding stations at various locations in the wilderness, near to blinds that they built. At this locations, they would put a bear's banquet - all the foods most attractive to bears. They in effect trained the bears to go to these locations for their hand-outs at regular times.

Then, when the tourists came, they would slot them in - put each tourist in a blind a bit before the bear's scheduled feeding. The bear comes to its hand-out place to see what the nice humans have left for it, and BOOM! 

All the fun and adventure of, say, shooting fish in a barrel.  Not that the tourists necessarily knew all the details though. Or maybe they did, I dunno.

[Barrister]

By the by, AMC has finally greenlit The Terror.

Based on the book by Dan Simmons, the 10-part series is a story about the crew of The Terror and um, the other ship, and how they were stalked by a giant polar bear.

No really, the book is better than it sounds.

In the novel the book the boat is blown up, so the find kind of throws a spanner into that.  It was a good novel for about two-thirds of the length.  At some point, the author forgot what he was doing and starts going off on strange tangents.  For instance, we suddenly cut to three sisters who make knocking sounds with their knees. The characters are real people but have no relation to what's going on the in rest of the book.

The Fox sisters!

They were tied into the story somewhat.  One of the sisters was romantically involved with (tries to remember, gives up, googles) Elisha Kane, an arctic explorer who went out on two ewpeditions to find Franklin.

I read a book a few years ago called Race to the Polar Sea about Kane, and it had extensive material about the Fox sisters.

[Josephus]

By the by, AMC has finally greenlit The Terror.

Based on the book by Dan Simmons, the 10-part series is a story about the crew of The Terror and um, the other ship, and how they were stalked by a giant polar bear.

No really, the book is better than it sounds.

In the novel the book the boat is blown up, so the find kind of throws a spanner into that.  It was a good novel for about two-thirds of the length.  At some point, the author forgot what he was doing and starts going off on strange tangents.  For instance, we suddenly cut to three sisters who make knocking sounds with their knees. The characters are real people but have no relation to what's going on the in rest of the book.

The Fox sisters!

They were tied into the story somewhat.  One of the sisters was romantically involved with (tries to remember, gives up, googles) Elisha Kane, an arctic explorer who went out on two ewpeditions to find Franklin.

I read a book a few years ago called Race to the Polar Sea about Kane, and it had extensive material about the Fox sisters.

BB, I know you're interested in the Franklin expedition. I do recommend this Simmons book. It's fiction that takes on a supernatural bent, but some of the historical stuff is really good. And it is a gripping thriller.