The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

[grumbler]

Yeah. The politicians and the voters will have to make it priority where the departments are not doing it themselves.

I agree with this, but think that this will cost a lot more than most people are currently aware of.  What this really means is a lot more training (and a lot more washing out of those emotionally/temperamentally unsuited to wear a badge and a gun) and that means a lot more money.

[Razgovory]

I'm angry for them. I'm furious on their behalf. What are the police doing to combat this image? What are police doing to help bridge this gap? How are they reaching out, helping, being part of the solution? By denying that it even exists.

Why does every white Democratic woman engage in hysterical rhetoric that lumps all police together?

Hysterical? Really? Oh, sorry. I forgot. I have boobs and a vagina, ergo everything that I say is hysterical rhetoric.

By the way, to throw this out there so we both know where we stand, you'll respond and say something you consider clever and witty, and I'll ignore it and you. Because you're neither clever nor witty, as can be seen by the above comment, and there's no value in engaging you.

  I think that everyone but you (and maybe Raz) saw the deliberate absurdity of my statement (and thus the unknowing absurdity of yours).

Please, don't engage with me.  I am just making fun of your silly statements, not making conversation with you.  There is no value in 'conversing' with you.

Most of your statement are absurd...

[Admiral Yi]

Most of your base are belong to us.

[dps]

Yeah. The politicians and the voters will have to make it priority where the departments are not doing it themselves.

I agree with this, but think that this will cost a lot more than most people are currently aware of.  What this really means is a lot more training (and a lot more washing out of those emotionally/temperamentally unsuited to wear a badge and a gun) and that means a lot more money.

I agree, but I do question our ability to successfully completely screen out those unsuited to be police officers.  It seems to me that it's hard to tell ahead of time just how someone will react under stress.  I'm not saying that we can't do a better job, but some folks are going to seem fine until it matters.

And when someone does demonstrate that they can't handle it, we need a way to remove them from the position without necessarily criminally prosecuting them.  Simply being unfit for the job shouldn't be a crime.

[grumbler]

I agree, but I do question our ability to successfully completely screen out those unsuited to be police officers.  It seems to me that it's hard to tell ahead of time just how someone will react under stress.  I'm not saying that we can't do a better job, but some folks are going to seem fine until it matters.

And when someone does demonstrate that they can't handle it, we need a way to remove them from the position without necessarily criminally prosecuting them.  Simply being unfit for the job shouldn't be a crime.

Agreed.  If it was easy, they'd have done it by now, I reckon.  Still, many Euro countries seem to have a better system for police training.  We had this discussion here a year or so ago.

[sbr]

Well the "good" news is that the cop was trying to shoot the autistic kid with the toy truck and missed.

The bad news is that the cop was trying to shoot the autistic kid with the toy truck and missed.

https://twitter.com/ChuckRabin/status/756205074548924417

[LaCroix]

that makes more sense, if the autistic man (he was 23 years old) was sperging out at the time

[sbr]

But the kids wasn't, at least on the video.

Also if he was shooting at the kid, why did he stop firing before he shot the kid and why did they then handcuff the bleeding black dude?

[sbr]

Oh yeah, and why the fuck would you shoot an unarmed autistic kid, even if he was "sperging out at the time"?

[CountDeMoney]

Could be shooting for the moon or at fish in a barrel as far as I'm concerned;  still doesn't change the fact that there was no reason to employ deadly force.

[CountDeMoney]

I agree, but I do question our ability to successfully completely screen out those unsuited to be police officers.  It seems to me that it's hard to tell ahead of time just how someone will react under stress.  I'm not saying that we can't do a better job, but some folks are going to seem fine until it matters.

And when someone does demonstrate that they can't handle it, we need a way to remove them from the position without necessarily criminally prosecuting them.  Simply being unfit for the job shouldn't be a crime.

The only thing more difficult than finding suitable candidates are trying to fire unsuitable officers.

[11B4V]

I agree, but I do question our ability to successfully completely screen out those unsuited to be police officers.  It seems to me that it's hard to tell ahead of time just how someone will react under stress.  I'm not saying that we can't do a better job, but some folks are going to seem fine until it matters.

And when someone does demonstrate that they can't handle it, we need a way to remove them from the position without necessarily criminally prosecuting them.  Simply being unfit for the job shouldn't be a crime.

The only thing more difficult than finding suitable candidates are trying to fire unsuitable officers.

Once they're past their probation, yes.

[CountDeMoney]

The only thing more difficult than finding suitable candidates is trying to fire unsuitable officers.

Once they're past their probation, yes.

Well yes, but that would've fucked up the tempo and symmetry of my sentence, but thank you anyway, Officer Rain Man.

[11B4V]

The only thing more difficult than finding suitable candidates is trying to fire unsuitable officers.

Once they're past their probation, yes.

Well yes, but that would've fucked up the tempo and symmetry of my sentence, but thank you anyway, Officer Rain Man.

My pleasure.

[LaCroix]

Oh yeah, and why the fuck would you shoot an unarmed autistic kid, even if he was "sperging out at the time"?

he was holding a toy truck, right? 

I haven't seen the video, and I wasn't condoning the cop's actions. I meant it makes more sense than the original story of a cop targeting a guy whose arms are out.