The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

[The Brain]

Is there any police organization in the world which deals with these situations in a way that is considered best practice? If so, how do they deal with these situations? Copy their methods.

[The Larch]

Dolly Parton statue may replace KKK leader memorial at Tennessee Capitol

Truly a much better bust. 

[Sheilbh]

Dolly Parton statue may replace KKK leader memorial at Tennessee Capitol

Truly a much better bust. 

Also I find it almost impossible to imagine a bigger upgrade in every possible respect

[alfred russel]

They've been told they're heroes for the past 20 years. Doing a dangerous job.

Driver/sales workers and truck drivers: Fatal injuries in 2016: 24.7 per 100,000 workers.

Police and sheriff's patrol officers: Fatal injuries in 2016: 14.6 per 100,000 workers.

So your pizza delivery guy is even more of a hero. Also they rarely choke black people to death on TV.

I agree that the police need to nut up and accept that their jobs have some danger, and that doesn't justify blasting away the general public any time a risk appears. I posted somewhere a study of police deaths in the US over time, and it is a much safer profession than it used to be.

But there is a flip side of this at the moment. The data is hard to come by (too many entities), but police kill somewhere around 300 black people a year. That is under 1 per 100,000. Obviously that doesn't consider that some of those killings are possibly justified.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database

Recently, you get mass gatherings like this, in Paris, which is in another country and on another continent from the George Floyd killing:

[Grey Fox]

France has it's own racism problem too. American culture poisons everything.

[Zoupa]

They've been told they're heroes for the past 20 years. Doing a dangerous job.

Driver/sales workers and truck drivers: Fatal injuries in 2016: 24.7 per 100,000 workers.

Police and sheriff's patrol officers: Fatal injuries in 2016: 14.6 per 100,000 workers.

So your pizza delivery guy is even more of a hero. Also they rarely choke black people to death on TV.

I agree that the police need to nut up and accept that their jobs have some danger, and that doesn't justify blasting away the general public any time a risk appears. I posted somewhere a study of police deaths in the US over time, and it is a much safer profession than it used to be.

But there is a flip side of this at the moment. The data is hard to come by (too many entities), but police kill somewhere around 300 black people a year. That is under 1 per 100,000. Obviously that doesn't consider that some of those killings are possibly justified.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database

Recently, you get mass gatherings like this, in Paris, which is in another country and on another continent from the George Floyd killing:

I don't understand your last paragraph. What's the relation to the rest of your post?

[alfred russel]

I don't understand your last paragraph. What's the relation to the rest of your post?

Sorry, I didn't think you needed to be spoon fed. How many covid deaths do you think will result from gatherings like the one pictured?

[Zoupa]

That still has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of your post?

[alfred russel]

That still has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of your post?

Sure it does.

[Tonitrus]

Of course, it turned out to be a fucking BB gun made to look like a real gun (THAT should be fucking illegal right there), but you can't wait until he actually blows you away so you can be sure that a gun designed to look just like a deadly gun, is in fact a deadly gun.

I wonder if it was actually an airsoft (small difference), they often get classed as "BB guns" but can look like the real thing.

And this also might be a sign of the times/loss of innocence.  I remember playing with water guns as a kid that could easily be mistaken for an authentic modern assault rifle today.

[The Brain]

Some day the cops may upgrade to Predator policing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsDci3A76N0

[Barrister]

Of course, it turned out to be a fucking BB gun made to look like a real gun (THAT should be fucking illegal right there), but you can't wait until he actually blows you away so you can be sure that a gun designed to look just like a deadly gun, is in fact a deadly gun.

I wonder if it was actually an airsoft (small difference), they often get classed as "BB guns" but can look like the real thing.

And this also might be a sign of the times/loss of innocence.  I remember playing with water guns as a kid that could easily be mistaken for an authentic modern assault rifle today.

Up here in Canada, where handguns are tightly controlled, the bad guys on a lot of my files are carrying those fucking Airsofts.  Damn right that should be illegal.

[Zoupa]

That still has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of your post?

Sure it does.

Police shootings are bad. Segue to possible covid transmission in Paris.

Please tell me your point isn't: "cops killing black folks in the USis wrong, but look at all these black folks in another country that might get covid19 and die".

Is that it?

[alfred russel]

That still has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of your post?

Sure it does.

Police shootings are bad. Segue to possible covid transmission in Paris.

Please tell me your point isn't: "cops killing black folks in the USis wrong, but look at all these black folks in another country that might get covid19 and die".

Is that it?

Why do you want me to tell you that isn't my point? There is some irony in a bunch of majority non black protesters under banners and chants of "black lives matter", protesting the police killing of about ~300 black people a year, spreading a disease that is disproportionately taking black lives (so far killed about 30,000 of them in the US in the past 4 months).

The racial breakdown of covid deaths in France is harder to find, but the disease has impacted that country significantly worse than the US on a per capita basis.

[Zoupa]

That still has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of your post?

Sure it does.

Police shootings are bad. Segue to possible covid transmission in Paris.

Please tell me your point isn't: "cops killing black folks in the USis wrong, but look at all these black folks in another country that might get covid19 and die".

Is that it?

Why do you want me to tell you that isn't my point? There is some irony in a bunch of majority non black protesters under banners and chants of "black lives matter", protesting the police killing of about ~300 black people a year, spreading a disease that is disproportionately taking black lives (so far killed about 30,000 of them in the US in the past 4 months).

The racial breakdown of covid deaths in France is harder to find, but the disease has impacted that country significantly worse than the US on a per capita basis.

Ok, so that was your point.

/ignore