Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-25

[Grinning_Colossus]

And, while Russia is basically invading a European state and directly challenging the post-WW2 security order on the continent, Chuck Hagel thinks ISIS is the primary threat to US interests everywhere. 

Russia isn't going to blow up our embassies or fly airplanes into our buildings.

[DGuller]

And, while Russia is basically invading a European state and directly challenging the post-WW2 security order on the continent, Chuck Hagel thinks ISIS is the primary threat to US interests everywhere. 

Russia isn't going to blow up our embassies or fly airplanes into our buildings.

Yes, but it can do far bigger damage.

[CountDeMoney]

Meanwhile, the other side of the globe is the epicenter of the world's biggest conventional arms race for the last 20 years, and are diving headfirst into classic 19th century nation-state power politics on a grand scale predicated on the most basic origins of conflict: national prestige and natural resources.

But no, we've got Europeans sweating us over Russia being Russia, and our military-industrial complex obsessing over the latest edition of monkey bar-swinging Mooselimbs.

Don't bother calling your local cable provider when the Chinese splash all our satellites into the Pacific in 2025.  Assholes.

[derspiess]

The Chinese are our friends.

[CountDeMoney]

Maybe if you're a sub-Saharan poacher.

[derspiess]

Maybe if you're a sub-Saharan poacher.

Does that pay well?

[Eddie Teach]

And, while Russia is basically invading a European state and directly challenging the post-WW2 security order on the continent, Chuck Hagel thinks ISIS is the primary threat to US interests everywhere. 

Which dog is more dangerous, the wild, rabid beagle or the Rottweiler whose chain is just a bit too long to keep them in their own yard? 

[Alcibiades]

I like how Poland seems to be the only country that dropped by two levels.

Map is too hard for you to read then, apparently.  Not that anyone expects anything different, being Polish and the resident idiot.

[Alcibiades]

Don't bother calling your local cable provider when the Chinese splash all our satellites into the Pacific in 2025.  Assholes.

We are not overly concerned about that, actually.   

[Razgovory]

Meanwhile, the other side of the globe is the epicenter of the world's biggest conventional arms race for the last 20 years, and are diving headfirst into classic 19th century nation-state power politics on a grand scale predicated on the most basic origins of conflict: national prestige and natural resources.

But no, we've got Europeans sweating us over Russia being Russia, and our military-industrial complex obsessing over the latest edition of monkey bar-swinging Mooselimbs.

Don't bother calling your local cable provider when the Chinese splash all our satellites into the Pacific in 2025.  Assholes.

Uh, ISIS is an army and Russia is invading it's neighbor.  I think that's bigger strategic problem then Chinese chicks cock blocking you.

[derspiess]

Boom.

[CountDeMoney]

They see me Razzin', they be hatin'.

[Syt]

http://online.wsj.com/articles/nato-russians-using-artillery-inside-ukraine-1408732942?tesla=y&mg=reno64-wsj&url=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203858004580107940374684262.html

NATO: Russians Using Artillery Inside Ukraine

NATO Secretary-General Says Escalation Coincides With Entry of Humanitarian Convoy

BRUSSELS—Russia has been using artillery against Ukraine forces both from its own territory and from inside Ukraine itself, officials of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization said.

"Russian artillery support –both cross-border and from within Ukraine –is being employed against the Ukrainian armed forces," said NATO spokeswoman Oana Lungescu.

The reports of Russian artillery inside Ukraine, operated both by separatists and by Russian forces themselves, is a new and potentially volatile development.

"Since mid-August we have multiple reports of the direct involvement of including Russian airborne, air defense and special operations forces in eastern Ukraine," Ms. Lungescu said.

She added, "We have also seen transfers of large quantities of advanced weapons, including tanks, armored personnel carriers and artillery, to separatist groups in eastern Ukraine. And for weeks we have seen an alarming buildup of Russian ground and air forces in the vicinity of Ukraine."

NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said what is "even more worrying" is that the Russian military escalation is coinciding with the entry of the purportedly humanitarian convoy into Ukraine.

"This is a blatant breach of Russia's international commitments, including those made recently in Berlin and Geneva, and a further violation of Ukraine's sovereignty by Russia," Mr. Rasmussen said. "It can only deepen the crisis in the region, which Russia itself has created and has continued to fuel. The disregard of international humanitarian principles raises further questions about whether the true purpose of the aid convoy is to support civilians or to resupply armed separatists."

"potentially volatile development" - Ya think? 

[Syt]

From RT:

"Given the obvious protractions by Kiev on the issue of the delivery of Russian aid to southeast regions of Ukraine, which are suffering a humanitarian catastrophe, a decision was made on sending the convoy. Further delaying it would have been unacceptable," Putin told Merkel on Friday, the Kremlin's press service reported.

[Tonitrus]

They see me Razzin', they be hatin'.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/22/world/asia/us-china-air-encounter/index.html?hpt=hp_t3