Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-25

[DGuller]

Am I the only one who keeps derspiess and DGuller confused? 

Man, you've really been banned for a long time.

[derspiess]

Well, looks like now is the watershed moment.  Was this a feint to see if Ukraine will ever have the balls to fire on Russians, or is the shit going down down now?

I would say shit is going down.  I can't imagine Putin would send a column in to get shot up and then do nothing further.

Then again, I didn't think he'd invade at all.

[Valmy]

Hopefully Ukraine does a better job defending itself than the Kurds and Iraqis did.  How motivated will the Russians really be?  They just need to make it hard for the Russians.

[Martinus]

Recently I spent several minutes - and then had to go through the members list - to remember fahdiz's nick. I am friends with him on Facebook so I know his real name but couldn't remember that here he was "fahdiz"/ 

[Eddie Teach]

Am I the only one who keeps derspiess and DGuller confused? 

Yes. The rest of us get Alfred Russell and DGuller confused.

[Valmy]

He took the vowels out to be like...um...a bronze age language I guess.  fhdz.

[Berkut]

I wonder how Obama will react.

Whatever he does, I hope he does it *quickly*.

Surely they have a contingency plan in place for this, right? I mean, it's not like the possibility that this would occur is some great surprise.

[derspiess]

But they have these vehemently anti-immigration parties winning elections and whatnot.

That doesn't mean they hate all foreigners. 

[Berkut]

For that matter, what will Europe do?

Anything?

Anything?

Anything?

Anything at all?

[Martinus]

Hopefully Ukraine does a better job defending itself than the Kurds and Iraqis did.  How motivated will the Russians really be?  They just need to make it hard for the Russians.

I just can't imagine Russia holding to East Ukraine for long - if he tries to, knowing Ukrainians, he will have a guerilla war on his hands soon enough. I guess his goal is simply to keep Ukraine destabilised so it never gets into shape it needs to join the EU and NATO.

[derspiess]

I wonder how Obama will react.

Whatever he does, I hope he does it *quickly*.

Surely they have a contingency plan in place for this, right? I mean, it's not like the possibility that this would occur is some great surprise.

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[Tamas]

I wonder how Obama will react.

Whatever he does, I hope he does it *quickly*.

Surely they have a contingency plan in place for this, right? I mean, it's not like the possibility that this would occur is some great surprise.

Let's hope he is not flushing the bombers just yet.

[Martinus]

For that matter, what will Europe do?

Anything?

Anything?

Anything?

Anything at all?

There is no "Europe". There is the UK, France and Germany that make sweet deals with Putin and his oligarchs; Spain and Italy who couldn't care less; and Poland and the Baltics who are alternatively shitting their pants and rattling their sabers. (Un)surprisingly, the Scandies seem to be the most reasonable and principled in all of this, calling a spade a spade but telling Poles and the Balts to cool it for a while.

[derspiess]

Well as long as their not shitting their sabers & rattling their pants, they should be okay.

[Tamas]

For that matter, what will Europe do?

Anything?

Anything?

Anything?

Anything at all?

There is no "Europe". There is the UK, France and Germany that make sweet deals with Putin and his oligarchs; Spain and Italy who couldn't care less; and Poland and the Baltics who are alternatively shitting their pants and rattling their sabers. (Un)surprisingly, the Scandies seem to be the most reasonable and principled in all of this, calling a spade a spade but telling Poles and the Balts to cool it for a while.

You need to get up to speed with the forum again dude, because I am actually agreeing with you in this thread, and that shouldn't happen.