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Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-26

Started by mongers, August 06, 2014, 03:12:53 PM

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Tonitrus

And back to war news...there are indications that Steve Witkoff has still been hard at work trying to surrender Ukraine.

Zoupa

Every month he travels to Moscow and comes back with a "new peace plan". Every month it's the same plan. Every month the US press works itself into a frenzy about it.

grumbler

Quote from: Zoupa on November 19, 2025, 10:52:09 PMEvery month he travels to Moscow and comes back with a "new peace plan". Every month it's the same plan. Every month the US press works itself into a frenzy about it.

Curious that the media frenzy you observe can be seen there but not in the US itself.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

celedhring

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Quote from: grumbler on November 19, 2025, 11:19:49 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on November 19, 2025, 10:52:09 PMEvery month he travels to Moscow and comes back with a "new peace plan". Every month it's the same plan. Every month the US press works itself into a frenzy about it.

Curious that the media frenzy you observe can be seen there but not in the US itself.

Yeah, the Euro media seems to be freaking out about it much more than the US one. I hope it means they know the plan has little credibility.

The freakout also goes to show how impotent we Euros are at the moment.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Zoupa on November 19, 2025, 10:52:09 PMEvery month he travels to Moscow and comes back with a "new peace plan". Every month it's the same plan.

Of course it's the same plan.  It has the same author.  Why would Putin change it?
We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
--Woodrow Wilson

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: celedhring on Today at 04:00:36 AMYeah, the Euro media seems to be freaking out about it much more than the US one. I hope it means they know the plan has little credibility.

1/3 is that the US media knows that Steve Witless is a joke
1/3 is that the US media can't keep track with all the ruinously crazy crap Trump & Co. are up to. Only so many stories can fit front page
1/3 is that the US media knows most of the US public yawns at foreign policy stuff unless we're blowing up shit or getting blown up ourselves.
We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
--Woodrow Wilson