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Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-25

Started by mongers, August 06, 2014, 03:12:53 PM

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Razgovory

Quote from: DGuller on May 20, 2025, 09:44:56 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 20, 2025, 08:29:33 PMSeems like motorcycles would be a very loud, fuel inefficient way to move troops.
Why in the world would it be fuel inefficient?  Motorcycles are significantly more fuel-efficient than cars, let alone armored vehicles.
I'm thinking that one truck would be more efficient then a dozen motorcycles.  I doubt they would use street motorcycles, dirt bikes are really loud.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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Zoupa

This is a terrible idea. At this point I've seen hundreds of motorbike assaults by russians. I am not aware of a single one succeeding. They get absolutely wrecked at the slightest contact, as they're speeding like crazy obviously.

Anyways. Behind the lines for risky resupply sure, but not for assaults.

grumbler

I don't think that those few paragraphs tell us anything meaningful about the proposed use of motorcycles, so evaluating that use is impossible.
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Bayraktar!

Zoupa


Josquius

Hopefully they play Russia at their own game "We questioned 2 Ukrainian nationals at the airport who had just flown in the day before however they were clearly tourists visiting a local 18th century flour mill of some renown"
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Jacob

More on the motorcycle unit:

QuoteSkala motorcyclists carried out a successful night raid on the border in the Kursk sector

The newly formed motorcycle unit of the 425th separate assault regiment Skala took part in offensive operations in the Kursk sector.

The corresponding video was released by the regiment's press service.

It is reported that such a format of assault operations was used for the first time in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The motorcycle assault troops operated at night using night vision devices.

At high speed, the assault group passed through engineering barriers – dragon's teeth – crossed the border, broke through to enemy positions, and captured them. Motorcycles also ensured a rapid withdrawal from the occupied positions.

In addition, the unit evacuated the crew of a damaged vehicle using a quad bike and a wounded comrade using a motorcycle.

According to information from a War Archive observer, the assault took place on the Ukrainian-Russian border in the area of the now non-existent village of Novy Put.

The first motorcycle assault company in the Armed Forces of Ukraine

The formation of the first motorcycle company in the Armed Forces of Ukraine became known recently, on May 20.

Judging by the published footage, among other tactics, the movement of large swarms of motorcycles was practiced, with two fighters on each: a driver and a gunner.

Both are armed with AK-74U assault rifles, which, according to the plan, should simplify shooting on the move, as well as generally facilitate maneuvering and handling weapons. After dismounting, the driver and shooter act as a pair
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The fighters note that the regiment provided full and high-quality training for its personnel, with no restrictions on fuel or ammunition.

It can be assumed that, by analogy with the Russians, the motorcycles will be assigned specific roles: one may carry radio-electronic countermeasures, while another may tow stretchers for the wounded or ammunition.

The main task of such motorcycle units is to quickly capture positions by rapidly breaking through open terrain, minimizing the time needed for the enemy to detect and respond with fire.

https://militarnyi.com/en/news/skala-motorcyclists-carried-out-a-successful-night-raid-on-the-border-in-the-kursk-sector/


The Brain

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Zanza

He was at a public debate and stated that Ukraine may now use Western weapons without range limitations to attack targets in Russia. This would be true for German, British, French and US weapons.

Grey Fox

They attacked quite distant Russian bases and plant yesterday.
Getting ready to make IEDs against American Occupation Forces.

"But I didn't vote for him"; they cried.

Legbiter

Quote from: Zanza on May 26, 2025, 03:17:10 PMHe was at a public debate and stated that Ukraine may now use Western weapons without range limitations to attack targets in Russia. This would be true for German, British, French and US weapons.

Maybe...give Ukraine some kind of long-range stuff then?  :hmm:

The only deep strikes being done is by their own drones. Every deep-strike on russki oil refineries is being accompanied by alot of whining from the EU (energy prices!)

However chickenshit you imagine the European govs to be (Balts and Scandies excepted), the truth is even worse. Way worse.

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Tonitrus

We all should have had full trade embargos on Russian since...(checks watch)...3.25 years ago.

Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Tonitrus on May 27, 2025, 07:46:29 PMWe all should have had full trade embargos on Russian since...(checks watch)...3.25 years ago.

Indeed. And now the coordination between the European and American embargoing is breaking down.
Whatever happens next, the autocrats have already scored some big wins

Josquius

They've had the ok on taurus for a while now. I remember that was always bigged up as "if Germany just gives us that then bye bye kerch bridge"
Wonder what's keeping them with the bridge 
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celedhring

Seen the pictures of Merz with Zelensky. Hadn't realized that Merz is like 3m tall.