Thor is transexual!

[Neil]

I've always enjoyed Jean Grey... or did until the end.

Which Huntress are you talking about, Neil? Batman and Catwoman's daughter, or the mafioso's daughter? I liked the Mafioso's daughter, and the Birds of Prey series, but they don't get the playing time as the bigger named superheroes.

At the same time, I think it would be hard to have the Birds of Prey carry off a movie.

The mafia princess.

[Syt]

That Guy with the Glasses is such a guilty pleasure 

I don't follow him anymore since he added his lame "sketches" in between reviews. I still like Brad Jones (Cinema Snob) and Linkara, though, and a bunch of others. Oancitizen needs to post more often.

[merithyn]

War isn't the first thing I think of when I think of Freyja.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freyja

In Norse mythology, Freyja (Old Norse the "Lady") is a goddess associated with love, sexuality, beauty, fertility, gold, seiðr, war, and death. Freyja

Athena would be much more appropriate

You're right. She's a complex goddess with many, varied, aspects. What an awful concept for a comic book....

There is a book, but it's probably not what you'r looking for. Linkara did a review of #1: http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w/20066-athena-1
(In short: it's awful)

FWIW, his review of #2 was a bit kinder: http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w/43042-athena-2

I was talking about Freyja, not Athena.

[dps]

That Guy with the Glasses is such a guilty pleasure 

I don't follow him anymore since he added his lame "sketches" in between reviews. I still like Brad Jones (Cinema Snob) and Linkara, though, and a bunch of others. Oancitizen needs to post more often.

I still watch him, but I don't enjoy him nearly as much as before.  And Oancitizen isn't the only one who needs to post more.  Film Brain has only put up a couple or maybe 3 Bad Movie Beatdowns all year, and one of the IIRC was just a general review of 2013.  Some of the others have gotten just as bad about not posting regularly anymore.

[Ideologue]

I've always wondered what Doug Walker's rakeoff was on those.  Probably "a lot."

Lewis Louvhaug's kind of sucked for a while.  He's still a decent-to-good presenter, but an atrociously bad sketch comedy performer.  It's not even that great when Noah Antweiler and Brad Jones do their little sketches, but at least it's clear there's actual talent as actors and some talent as scenarists there--slightly above community theater level, perhaps, but enjoyable for what it is, and aware that the audience has a thing called "patience" that can be exhausted.  Louvhaug needed to stick to pure review, but he did not and the fact he still has a fanbase strikes me as bizarre.

P.S. if it counted, Kickassia would be one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

[Ideologue]

That's fair.  Cassandra Cain is just my favorite example of terrible execution in practically everything.  ("How do we create the perfect assassin?"  "First, we should make it so she's unable to answer questions at border checkpoints or even understand directions on how to get to where her target is.")

I was going to mention the LSH as a team with a lot of pretty top-notch female characters, although obviously that depends on the writer and often the issue.

I also forgot Ghost Rider.  Now it's an exhaustive list.

Do people still like Ghost Rider?  I was under the impression that he was a creature of the 'bitchin' era of the 90s.

Well, he's settled into the cultural consciousness.  No one really likes him.  Venom is the go-to 90s joke for me.

[Ideologue]

I've always enjoyed Jean Grey... or did until the end.

I'm wondering if you're going off of X3, or Dark Phoenix Saga, or the cartoons, or one of the other half couple of times she died.

The ending of Dark Phoenix is pretty much the best example of positive editorial interference ever in a comic book.  Jim Shooter fucking rules.  (Or ruled.  He's long past his prime.  Steel Nation was so rad.  Where's my Magnus Robot Fighter movie, bitches? )

[Neil]

That's fair.  Cassandra Cain is just my favorite example of terrible execution in practically everything.  ("How do we create the perfect assassin?"  "First, we should make it so she's unable to answer questions at border checkpoints or even understand directions on how to get to where her target is.")

I was going to mention the LSH as a team with a lot of pretty top-notch female characters, although obviously that depends on the writer and often the issue.

I also forgot Ghost Rider.  Now it's an exhaustive list.

Do people still like Ghost Rider?  I was under the impression that he was a creature of the 'bitchin' era of the 90s.

Well, he's settled into the cultural consciousness.  No one really likes him.  Venom is the go-to 90s joke for me.

I guess he got two movies.  But yeah, you're right to make fun of Venom.

[DontSayBanana]

Well, he's settled into the cultural consciousness.  No one really likes him.  Venom is the go-to 90s joke for me.

Anything by Rob Liefeld is mine.

http://www.progressiveboink.com/2012/4/21/2960508/worst-rob-liefeld-drawings

[celedhring]

I've always enjoyed Jean Grey... or did until the end.

Which Huntress are you talking about, Neil? Batman and Catwoman's daughter, or the mafioso's daughter? I liked the Mafioso's daughter, and the Birds of Prey series, but they don't get the playing time as the bigger named superheroes.

At the same time, I think it would be hard to have the Birds of Prey carry off a movie.

Huntress would almost certainly be Helena Bertinelli. Helena Wayne/Kyle is Earth 2. It's only in the New 52 that Helena Wayne comes to Earth 1. But, in a shocking twist, they revived Bertinelli and put her in the new Greyson Comic and this is her

I really hope there's more Helena Bertinelli episodes in Arrow's third season. She's a very interesting character (and the actress playing her really hot ).

I once read that the extensive list of female superheroes that are just lazy "now with breasts" copycats of male superheroes (she-hulk, supergirl, batgirl, spiderwoman, ms marvel, etc...) was due to companies being afraid of character concepts being stolen by rivals and thus securing their IP position by making another character with a similar powerset and likeness, just female. Is that true?

[Viking]

I really hope there's more Helena Bertinelli episodes in Arrow's third season. She's a very interesting character (and the actress playing her really hot ).

I once read that the extensive list of female superheroes that are just lazy "now with breasts" copycats of male superheroes (she-hulk, supergirl, batgirl, spiderwoman, ms marvel, etc...) was due to companies being afraid of character concepts being stolen by rivals and thus securing their IP position by making another character with a similar powerset and likeness, just female. Is that true?

Yes, Jessica De Gouw is insanely hott.
Yes, the inspiration to make many of those "with-tits" versions of characters was to protect IP rights. I know that is sprecifically the case for She-Hulk and Spiderwoman. Supergirl was probably not, merely an attempt to give superman a bigger supporting cast and sell comics to girls. Batgirl was created to give Robin somebody to hang out with who wasn't Batman to prove he wasn't gay, so was Batwoman (this the Betty Kane Batgirl, Barbara Gordon was invented by the 60's TV show to give an excuse to show a woman in tight clothing when Eartha Kitt wasn't on in the episode playing Catwoman).

Ms Marvel was also part of a plot to keep IP, but that was related to Captain Marvel. In the case of Captain Marvel the name was owned by DC due to them buying a bankrupt competitor



but the name lapsed and Marvel comics created a character named Captain Mar-Vell, which they called Captain Marvel



Which is why the Original Captain Marvel (who was for a period more popular than superman and DC had sued the publisher to stop since he looked too much like superman) when DC revived him had to use the title Shazam for his comics and not mention the Captain Marvel original name.

Marvel's Captain Marvel was pretty boring and was replaced by a "with tits" version of himself Ms Marvel, who became an interesting character and is an interesting character now.



Comics are WEIRD!

[Neil]

There was actually a stretch of time (from the late 90s through to the 2000s) where there was no Captain Marvel.  The guy version died of cancer in a public-service/awareness stunt (and he wasn't super popular anyways), and the women (Ms. Marvel) lost her powers and memories to Rogue from the X-Men.  Carol Danvers proceeded to have some adventures with the X-Men in space, and eventually got some powers again, serving on the Avengers under the names Binary (like the star, as her powers were cosmic in origin) and Warbird (because she was still a USAF officer).  Then she became a fascist stormtrooper for Tony Stark and became Ms. Marvel again, and now she's just Captain Marvel, since the original has been dead forever now.

There was a character calling herself Captain Marvel in the 80s and 90s who was a black woman with energy powers, but she really didn't have any relation to the mainline Captain Marvel.  They had her change her name to Photon later on.

[celedhring]

I used to read Ms Marvel's comic in the mid 2000s, back when I still read superhero comics with some regularity; I liked her character, possibly the kind of female superhero merithyn could dig - ridiculous boots nonwithstanding.

There was a script commissioned by Marvel for a Ms Marvel flick, but I haven't read anything more.

[Neil]

It could work, but it would feel weird.  Carol Danvers has always been one of those characters whose adventures are deeply intertwined with the Marvel Universe as a whole.  Maybe if she were to break out in an Avengers movie, but not before that.

[LaCroix]

they should make captain britain a pakistani for the reaction