Three Canadian Prisoners Escape in Helicopter

[KRonn]

Clearly, Canada's air defenses are lacking.

[viper37]

The convicts had their security measures relaxed.  They petitionned the court to have their handcuffs removed, and other unspecified measures (medias have contradictory reports, so I won't speculate here), wich was granted by a judge.

The Federal government is responsible for regulating airspace above prisons (any areas, for that matter), and nothing has been done on this side since the last prison break.

[crazy canuck]

We need to take better precautions.

[Grey Fox]

We need to put the responsability of prisoners awaiting trial for Criminal causes to the federal government.

We also need to not let the judges rule on their condition of imprisoment.

[Malthus]

We need to put the responsability of prisoners awaiting trial for Criminal causes to the federal government.

We also need to not let the judges rule on their condition of imprisoment.

Someone from Quebec wanting more powers for the federal government? That's a first. 

[viper37]

We also need to not let the judges rule on their condition of imprisoment.

I think it's the key solution here.  These guys should have been handcuffed hand&feet, but somehow, they convinced the judge to relax their conditions as it impaired their defense.  Despite having evidences that they would attempt to flee by helicopter...

[sbr]

Are all prisoners in Canada handcuffed at all times?

[Grey Fox]

No, just level 5 prisoners.

[crazy canuck]

Are all prisoners in Canada handcuffed at all times?

We generally dont do that.

[viper37]

Are all prisoners in Canada handcuffed at all times?

Depends on the security threat.  Those with higher security threat are supposed to be handcuffed as soon as they exit their cell.

[dps]

Are all prisoners in Canada handcuffed at all times?

Depends on the security threat.  Those with higher security threat are supposed to be handcuffed as soon as they exit their cell.

Some of the comments from Canadian posters here had made it sound like that in Canada, it's standard procedure to keep prisoners in cuffs even while they're in their cells.  I suppose Canadians understood the context, but the rest of us were a bit confused.

[viper37]

Are all prisoners in Canada handcuffed at all times?

Depends on the security threat.  Those with higher security threat are supposed to be handcuffed as soon as they exit their cell.

Some of the comments from Canadian posters here had made it sound like that in Canada, it's standard procedure to keep prisoners in cuffs even while they're in their cells.  I suppose Canadians understood the context, but the rest of us were a bit confused.

Sorry about that.

[viper37]

It seems there was a major fuckup on this.  There's a major fuckup in communications, that's for sure.

Police knew about the escape attempt since March, they even visited the convicts to inform them they knew.  Despite this, someone (not a judge) from correctional services made the decision to relax their security measures, twice.  Apparently, there was no notes in the file about the escape attempt.

The Minister of Justice doesn't look good on this, but it's hard to blame her.  She's just been sweared in, it's a new ministry for her and it seems no one in the Justice department knows what happens, everyone giving contradictory info.  One more PQ mess inherited by this governemnt.

[viper37]

Back in jail, until some other moron decides to alleviate their security rating.

Speaking of morons, the guys were still in Montreal.

It seems to me, given the level of planification required, given we have the world's largest unguarded border close by, I would have managed to land not so far from the border and move accross on foot or with an ATV, find a vehicle on the other side and be on my way to an airfield where I could leave for Costa Rica or Dominican Republic.  Well, anywhere without an extradition treaty.

[Grey Fox]

They are not dumb, this was a business escape. Lefebvre doesn't want to disappear, he still wants to control his gang. He can do it from inside the prison no problem. However, there is some deals you need to be present to do.