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Started by mongers, May 31, 2014, 06:15:35 PM

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derspiess

Here's what a constitutional scholar had to say about it:

QuoteWhile it is legitimate for a president to issue a signing statement to clarify his understanding of ambiguous provisions of statutes and to explain his view of how he intends to faithfully execute the law, it is a clear abuse of power to use such statements as a license to evade laws that the president does not like or as an end-run around provisions designed to foster accountability. I will not use signing statements to nullify or undermine congressional instructions as enacted into law.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Valmy

If only we had elected that scholar president  :(
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

derspiess

Quote from: Valmy on June 12, 2014, 03:21:15 PM
If only we had elected that scholar president  :(

Yep.  We might also have ended up with the most transparent administration in history.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Jacob

Quote from: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 02:16:58 PM
Oh, okay.  I believe this is the first time I'm being asked.

I asked you, in a bit less detail, earlier in the thread.

You ignored me  :cry:

But it's all good now :)

QuoteI stated my case on page 8 of this thread.  Those three factors together (if verifiably true) would make it a fuckup IMO.  You'll undoubtedly disagree.  And before you try to exaggerate what I'm saying, I'll remind you that I am not worked up about the whole Bergdahl affair.  You & Raz seem to be the ones egging things on.

Alright, so I'll put you down as "kind of a fuckup, but not really a big deal." Gotcha.

QuoteThe Administration has access to better info than I do.  If it turns out that they had good evidence that he was a deserter, then I disagree with the decision to give up the 5 bad guys for him.  In that case, I'd *personally* not even want him back, but would understand from a policy perspective making reasonable efforts to do so.

Fair enough. Thank you. I retract my allegations of "shameful dodging" :hug:




He could have notified congress in the appropriate time-frame and therefore stay within the law.  He could have held out for a more favorable deal.  And he could have avoided the big PR spectacle at the White House-- that one seemed destined to backfire.
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Valmy

Quote from: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 03:28:54 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 12, 2014, 03:21:15 PM
If only we had elected that scholar president  :(

Yep.  We might also have ended up with the most transparent administration in history.

Oh what might have been.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

CountDeMoney

Yes, makes one pine for the days of Dick Cheney-style transparency.

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 12, 2014, 02:04:17 PM
How could a signing statement be unconstitutional?  Pretty sure the 1st amendment covers that.

Ask the NYT, not me.  I thought they weren't a big deal when Bush did them and don't think they're one now.  If disregarding a law passed by Congress is unconstitutional, a memo by the president isn't going to change things.

derspiess

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 12, 2014, 03:58:37 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 12, 2014, 02:04:17 PM
How could a signing statement be unconstitutional?  Pretty sure the 1st amendment covers that.

Ask the NYT, not me.  I thought they weren't a big deal when Bush did them and don't think they're one now.  If disregarding a law passed by Congress is unconstitutional, a memo by the president isn't going to change things.

I think the Boston Globe dude even won a Pulitzer for his series of anti-Bush articles.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Valmy

That's nothing.  People have won Nobel Prizes for anti-Bush statements.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."


derspiess

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/14/us/bergdahl-is-set-to-resume-life-on-active-duty.html?smid=tw-share&_r=2

QuoteBergdahl Is Set to Resume Life on Active Duty

WASHINGTON — Six weeks after being released from five years in Taliban captivity, Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl is expected to return to life as a regular Army soldier as early as Monday, Defense Department officials said late Sunday.

Sergeant Bergdahl has finished undergoing therapy and counseling at an Army hospital in San Antonio, and will assume a job at the Army North headquarters at the same base, Fort Sam Houston, the officials said.

He is also expected to meet with Maj. Gen. Kenneth R. Dahl, the officer who is investigating the circumstances of Sergeant Bergdahl's disappearance from his outpost in Afghanistan in 2009.

Sergeant Bergdahl's transfer from the therapy phase to a regular soldier's job is part of his reintegration into Army life, officials said. He will live in barracks and have two other soldiers help him readjust.

The sergeant has been an outpatient at the hospital for about three weeks, during which time he continued to participate in debriefings about his time as a Taliban prisoner. He was released six weeks ago in exchange for five senior Taliban detainees.

Last Thursday, Senator Carl Levin, a Michigan Democrat who heads the Armed Services Committee, released letters from each of the Joint Chiefs of Staff supporting the repatriation of Sergeant Bergdahl, a rebuttal to critics who said the swap should not have been made.

Lol, Ken Dahl. 
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall