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Valmy

Quote from: Razgovory on June 10, 2014, 02:39:14 PM
We need more articles telling us what Stonewall Jackson would have done.

He would have sucked a lemon.
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derspiess

Quote from: Razgovory on June 10, 2014, 02:39:14 PM
We need more articles telling us what Stonewall Jackson would have done.

He'd probably have given his left arm to get Bergdahl back.
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Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on June 10, 2014, 03:11:05 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 10, 2014, 02:39:14 PM
We need more articles telling us what Stonewall Jackson would have done.

He'd probably have given his left arm to get Bergdahl back.

Well Bergdahl was an American soldier so Jackson would probably have killed him.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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derspiess

Quote from: Razgovory on June 10, 2014, 04:37:16 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 10, 2014, 03:11:05 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 10, 2014, 02:39:14 PM
We need more articles telling us what Stonewall Jackson would have done.

He'd probably have given his left arm to get Bergdahl back.

Well Bergdahl was an American soldier so Jackson would probably have killed him.

Jackson was an American officer.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on June 10, 2014, 04:50:47 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 10, 2014, 04:37:16 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 10, 2014, 03:11:05 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 10, 2014, 02:39:14 PM
We need more articles telling us what Stonewall Jackson would have done.

He'd probably have given his left arm to get Bergdahl back.

Well Bergdahl was an American soldier so Jackson would probably have killed him.

Jackson was an American officer.

I guess in the same sense the Hugo Chavez was.  He lived in the Americas and was an Officer.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

His country didn't have the word "America" in the name. Jackson's did.

It's like how both North Koreans and South Koreans are Koreans.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 10, 2014, 04:58:43 PM
His country didn't have the word "America" in the name. Jackson's did.

It's like how both North Koreans and South Koreans are Koreans.

Or that people in Europe are called "Europeans".  Folks in Latin America have long taken umbrage at the idea that people of the United States reserve the term "American" for themselves.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

Quote from: derspiess on June 10, 2014, 04:50:47 PM
Jackson was an American officer.

Was he?  I thought he was a Tennessee militia commander.  Officially I don't know if he was ever actually made an American Officer.

Tennessee even made him a general.  Sort of funny how things worked back then.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

citizen k

Quote from: Valmy on June 10, 2014, 05:07:12 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 10, 2014, 04:50:47 PM
Jackson was an American officer.

Was he?  I thought he was a Tennessee militia commander.  Officially I don't know if he was ever actually made an American Officer.

Tennessee even made him a general.  Sort of funny how things worked back then.

Tennessee is'nt in America?


Eddie Teach

Quote from: Razgovory on June 10, 2014, 05:03:25 PM
Or that people in Europe are called "Europeans".  Folks in Latin America have long taken umbrage at the idea that people of the United States reserve the term "American" for themselves.

European is not their primary group identifier. At least not yet.

As for the Latin Americans, not only is continental identity weaker than national identity, it doesn't really include Americans/Canadians. As English is our language, we get dibs. So American/Latin American. In Spanish, they call us North Americans.
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Quote from: Valmy on June 10, 2014, 05:07:12 PM
Was he?  I thought he was a Tennessee militia commander.  Officially I don't know if he was ever actually made an American Officer.

Tennessee even made him a general.  Sort of funny how things worked back then.

Stonewall, not Andrew.  :secret:

Razgovory

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 10, 2014, 05:20:35 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 10, 2014, 05:03:25 PM
Or that people in Europe are called "Europeans".  Folks in Latin America have long taken umbrage at the idea that people of the United States reserve the term "American" for themselves.

European is not their primary group identifier. At least not yet.

As for the Latin Americans, not only is continental identity weaker than national identity, it doesn't really include Americans/Canadians. As English is our language, we get dibs. So American/Latin American. In Spanish, they call us North Americans.

Where exactly are you going with this?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

Actually, I take it back. Chavez considered himself a Venezuelan. But Jackson considered himself a Virginian. /shrug
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on June 10, 2014, 04:50:47 PM

Jackson was an American officer.

Maybe for the America you were rooting for, but it was the wrong one, secessionist rat fuck.