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Started by mongers, May 31, 2014, 06:15:35 PM

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: viper37 on June 01, 2014, 12:39:36 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 31, 2014, 08:23:34 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 31, 2014, 07:41:36 PM
Welcome home soldier.

His father mentioned how he's apparently having difficulty speaking English.  YA WENT INJUN DINYA
Homeland scenario?

Suspicions are raised as he comes home in moccasins and feathers in his hair.

mongers

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 31, 2014, 06:30:06 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 31, 2014, 06:15:35 PM
Time for a more general settlement?

I can't imagine any terms the Taliban would be willing to accept that the good guys would be willing to offer.

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The US defence secretary dismissed the criticism, saying this was an exchange of prisoners of war. He said that he hoped the deal would open the way to a wider peace process.

Interesting if true.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Razgovory

This actually solves two problems.  First we get our guy back, second we get rid of guys at Gitmo.  If we release them back in to the wild we can kill them later.
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Hansmeister

We released five dangerous terrorists and get a deserter in return.

At least we can put him on trial.

Viking

Quote from: Hansmeister on June 02, 2014, 01:47:29 AM
We released five dangerous terrorists and get a deserter in return.

At least we can put him on trial.

Is he a deserter?
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Viking on June 02, 2014, 03:46:48 AM
Quote from: Hansmeister on June 02, 2014, 01:47:29 AM
We released five dangerous terrorists and get a deserter in return.

At least we can put him on trial.

Is he a deserter?

Being captured is no excuse for missing duty!  :mad:
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Syt

I read somewhere that after five years he's struggling to speak English and speaks mostly Arab and/or Pashtu?

So, he must be a deserter, if he doesn't have the strength of will to cling to the One True Language.
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Hansmeister

Quote from: Viking on June 02, 2014, 03:46:48 AM
Quote from: Hansmeister on June 02, 2014, 01:47:29 AM
We released five dangerous terrorists and get a deserter in return.

At least we can put him on trial.

Is he a deserter?

Yes, he left a note to that effect and sneaked off base to join the afghans to convince them to let him go home. He apparently also made comments to his squad mates prior to his desertion that he opposed the US and supported the afghans (apparently this nitwit believed that we were at war with the Afghans).

And now the White House is trying to portray this piece of shit as some sort of hero.

Josquius

Quote from: Syt on June 02, 2014, 05:17:32 AM
I read somewhere that after five years he's struggling to speak English and speaks mostly Arab and/or Pashtu?

So, he must be a deserter, if he doesn't have the strength of will to cling to the One True Language.
At least he is gained some employable skills during his years away. :)
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Viking

Quote from: Hansmeister on June 02, 2014, 06:13:59 AM
Quote from: Viking on June 02, 2014, 03:46:48 AM
Quote from: Hansmeister on June 02, 2014, 01:47:29 AM
We released five dangerous terrorists and get a deserter in return.

At least we can put him on trial.

Is he a deserter?

Yes, he left a note to that effect and sneaked off base to join the afghans to convince them to let him go home. He apparently also made comments to his squad mates prior to his desertion that he opposed the US and supported the afghans (apparently this nitwit believed that we were at war with the Afghans).

And now the White House is trying to portray this piece of shit as some sort of hero.

If so, I can only say

"gps implants in the released scumbags"
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Siege

Quote from: mongers on May 31, 2014, 06:15:35 PM
Breaking News - The US has negotiated 'via' Qatar, a prisoner swap with the Taliban, the sole US POW, an army sergeant has been released in exchanged for the freeing of 5 senior Taliban commanders/politicians held at Guantanamo. 

Time for a more general settlement?


Apparently the American has already been handed over to the US, supposedly several dozen US special forces meet with 19* Taliban fighters to conduct the handover.

The five Taliban are due to go to Qatar, living there for a year, before being transfered to Afghanistan.



* oddly specific, I'm just repeating AJ's coverage.

Fuck you Mongers.

Here are the names of the American Soldiers killed why actively looking for this faggot:

PFC Matthew Michael Martinek
SSG Kurt Robert Curtiss
SSG Clayton Bowen
PFC Morris Walker
SSG Michael Murphrey
2LT Darryn Andrews

These are just from the 501st Infantry, there are more from other units.


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


mongers

Quote from: Siege on June 02, 2014, 07:04:08 AM
Quote from: mongers on May 31, 2014, 06:15:35 PM
Breaking News - The US has negotiated 'via' Qatar, a prisoner swap with the Taliban, the sole US POW, an army sergeant has been released in exchanged for the freeing of 5 senior Taliban commanders/politicians held at Guantanamo. 

Time for a more general settlement?


Apparently the American has already been handed over to the US, supposedly several dozen US special forces meet with 19* Taliban fighters to conduct the handover.

The five Taliban are due to go to Qatar, living there for a year, before being transfered to Afghanistan.



* oddly specific, I'm just repeating AJ's coverage.

Fuck you Mongers.

Here are the names of the American Soldiers killed why actively looking for this faggot:

PFC Matthew Michael Martinek
SSG Kurt Robert Curtiss
SSG Clayton Bowen
PFC Morris Walker
SSG Michael Murphrey
2LT Darryn Andrews

These are just from the 501st Infantry, there are more from other units.

:huh:


Don't shoot the messenger.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Valmy

That is a pretty absurdly high price to pay for just one guy.  I guess the Admin does not want anything left to tie it to Afghanistan when/if it pulls out?

Edit: Oh hi Hans good to see you.  Hope things are going well.
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mongers

#28
I note Obama got some mature MILF hugging action yesterday.  :cool:

The husband with the zztop/taliban beard, Obama not so interested in.



edit:

What Valmy said, .. Hi Hansie. :cheers:
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

derspiess

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