What is the difference between Canada and the US re: socialism

[The Brain]

Free taxi?

For getting around.

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

But there's no such thing as "private university" in Canada, afaik.  All universities receive government funding.
There are private technical colleges though.

Define "receive government funding".  Nearly every reputable university in the US receives Federal grant money, either for specific programs and research or Pell grants for individual students.

[Grey Fox]

I think Canada is a bit more generous.

I might have asked this before, but does Canada hand out any walking around money just for being poor?

Yes, provinces handle last resort aid.

Base amount is 604$/month in Quebec for 1 adult.

+free taxi +free dentist +free optometrist + lots of free stuff.

+ not having more than 2k in assets, +monthly reviews

[Grey Fox]

But there's no such thing as "private university" in Canada, afaik.  All universities receive government funding.
There are private technical colleges though.

Define "receive government funding".  Nearly every reputable university in the US receives Federal grant money, either for specific programs and research or Pell grants for individual students.

Once again, this's a provincial matter.

Quebec gives almost 5 billions a year to fund our Universities. That amount is mostly based on region & absolute number of students. UdM, our biggest single University gets ~1 billion.*

Figures are from here : http://www.mesrst.gouv.qc.ca/fileadmin/contenu/documents_soutien/Ens_Sup/Universite/PersUniv/ReglesBudgControlesFinan/CalculsDefinitifsSubventionsFonctUniv2012-2013.pdf In French only, because we're assholes.

So basically, no private University akin to Harvard or the likes.

@Viper I understand this right, right? Subvention général et subvention de fonctionnement sont distincte?

[grumbler]

Why would you let the union negotiate for you?

Because you want the job.  If you don't want the job, you don't have to pay the dues.

[grumbler]

I'm not sure what the argument is that is being supported by bringing up the fact that Canada lacks private universities.  I would assume that Canada lacks private universities because the market for private universities is met by the US supply of private universities.  I don't think that Canada's lack of private universities and colleges and the US's possession of them is because of a significant difference in views on socialism.

[The Brain]

Why would you let the union negotiate for you?

Because you want the job.  If you don't want the job, you don't have to pay the dues.

That's completely retarded. North America truly is a Socialist hellhole.

[grumbler]

Why would you let the union negotiate for you?

Because you want the job.  If you don't want the job, you don't have to pay the dues.

That's completely retarded. -> North America truly is a Socialist hellhole.

FYP

[Grey Fox]

I'm not sure what the argument is that is being supported by bringing up the fact that Canada lacks private universities.  I would assume that Canada lacks private universities because the market for private universities is met by the US supply of private universities.  I don't think that Canada's lack of private universities and colleges and the US's possession of them is because of a significant difference in views on socialism.

Yes.

[Berkut]

But there's no such thing as "private university" in Canada, afaik.  All universities receive government funding.
There are private technical colleges though.

Define "receive government funding".  Nearly every reputable university in the US receives Federal grant money, either for specific programs and research or Pell grants for individual students.

And that is exactly what I meant by using that as an example.

We don't generally just do something like "Hey, the government should fund <whatever> directly!". Instead, we claim to be anti-socialist, no government intervention while the feds funnel massive dollars into programs via a thousand other avenues that amount to largely the same thing...absent any actual efficiency, since we are desperately trying to pretend we aren't subsidizing anything.

We have Canada level practical government spending on social programs, but do it badly since we don't want to admit it.

[grumbler]

And that is exactly what I meant by using that as an example.

We don't generally just do something like "Hey, the government should fund <whatever> directly!". Instead, we claim to be anti-socialist, no government intervention while the feds funnel massive dollars into programs via a thousand other avenues that amount to largely the same thing...absent any actual efficiency, since we are desperately trying to pretend we aren't subsidizing anything.

I think you are doing it wrong.

[garbon]

I thought the Conservative attack was that we need to roll back spending - not that we don't do it.

[Razgovory]

I agree that Socialism is poor word here.  I think what is really being described is "Social Democracy".  I am not a socialist, though I do believe in social democratic measures to a capitalistic economy.

[Ed Anger]

Splitter!

[Tonitrus]

But there's no such thing as "private university" in Canada, afaik.  All universities receive government funding.
There are private technical colleges though.

Define "receive government funding".  Nearly every reputable university in the US receives Federal grant money, either for specific programs and research or Pell grants for individual students.

And that is exactly what I meant by using that as an example.

We don't generally just do something like "Hey, the government should fund <whatever> directly!". Instead, we claim to be anti-socialist, no government intervention while the feds funnel massive dollars into programs via a thousand other avenues that amount to largely the same thing...absent any actual efficiency, since we are desperately trying to pretend we aren't subsidizing anything.

We have Canada level practical government spending on social programs, but do it badly since we don't want to admit it.

Agreed.  That is probably pretty much what medicare/medicaid (and whatever else there is) amount to, and is probably not as effective as the Canadian system in terms of either cost control or medical coverage.