A Harvard Education - the Benefits are Lost on Some

Started by The Minsky Moment, May 02, 2014, 11:21:08 AM

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The Minsky Moment

http://bostonherald.com/business/business_markets/2014/04/harvard_students_protest_call_for_fossil_fuel_divestment

Students blockading the university President's office in effort to force the endowment fund to divest from oil company stocks.

Exactly how selling stock in fossil fuel companies is supposed to alter the worldwide energy mix is not explained.  Perhaps it is too complicated to put on a placard.
The Divestment Campaign website also doesn't explain however.  Instead it advances two contradictory purposes: (1) to "rebrand" the fossil fuel companies as "social pariahs" and (2) to protect the endowment funds from inevitable losses that will result from investing funds in such miscreants.   :D
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DGuller

Well, if they're successful on point 1, wouldn't point 2 follow?

crazy canuck

Does the President of the University direct the investments of the endowment fund?

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2014, 11:29:29 AM
Does the President of the University direct the investments of the endowment fund?

Don't distract with us with such petty details.
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Zanza

Quote from: DGuller on May 02, 2014, 11:22:18 AM
Well, if they're successful on point 1, wouldn't point 2 follow?
Doubtful. Does the stock price of a company depend much on its status as social pariah among elite students?

crazy canuck

Quote from: Zanza on May 02, 2014, 11:38:08 AM
Quote from: DGuller on May 02, 2014, 11:22:18 AM
Well, if they're successful on point 1, wouldn't point 2 follow?
Doubtful. Does the stock price of a company depend much on its status as social pariah among elite students?

It might.  But the article doesnt tell us what the elite students think.

Norgy

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 02, 2014, 11:21:08 AM
http://bostonherald.com/business/business_markets/2014/04/harvard_students_protest_call_for_fossil_fuel_divestment

Students blockading the university President's office in effort to force the endowment fund to divest from oil company stocks.

Exactly how selling stock in fossil fuel companies is supposed to alter the worldwide energy mix is not explained.  Perhaps it is too complicated to put on a placard.
The Divestment Campaign website also doesn't explain however.  Instead it advances two contradictory purposes: (1) to "rebrand" the fossil fuel companies as "social pariahs" and (2) to protect the endowment funds from inevitable losses that will result from investing funds in such miscreants.   :D

They're a couple of decades early, I think.
Although renewables grow and fast, so do coal, gas and oil. The notion may be good, but the execution is in the silly column.

Grey Fox

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derspiess

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crazy canuck

Quote from: Grey Fox on May 02, 2014, 11:45:52 AM
Universities can invest on the stock market?

:bleeding:

Where would you have an endowment fund invest its funds so that it can give out endowments?

Norgy

Quote from: derspiess on May 02, 2014, 11:46:00 AM
They should invest in more green jobs.



Only so many people are needed to run these. :(

Grey Fox

Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2014, 11:47:04 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 02, 2014, 11:45:52 AM
Universities can invest on the stock market?

:bleeding:

Where would you have an endowment fund invest its funds so that it can give out endowments?

I wouldnt let them invest it in anything.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Grey Fox on May 02, 2014, 11:45:52 AM
Universities can invest on the stock market?

:bleeding:

University endowment funds are some of the biggest players out there.

Valmy

Quote from: Grey Fox on May 02, 2014, 11:50:21 AM
I wouldnt let them invest it in anything.

Where are they supposed to get their funding from?  Well besides raise tuition but we are already getting to absurd levels there.
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Quote from: Grey Fox on May 02, 2014, 11:50:21 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 02, 2014, 11:47:04 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 02, 2014, 11:45:52 AM
Universities can invest on the stock market?

:bleeding:

Where would you have an endowment fund invest its funds so that it can give out endowments?

I wouldnt let them invest it in anything.

Why not?  A $1M scholarship endowment, invested responsibly, can help students for generations.  If it can't be invested, it'll be deleted in just a few years.  And besides, what's the alternative?  Have the university president bury the money in a jar in his back yard?