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Donald Sterling and Racism

Started by alfred russel, April 27, 2014, 08:49:02 PM

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garbon

Quote from: Valmy on May 01, 2014, 09:30:52 AM
Though I do find it sort of interesting we seem to have less of a problem with actually discrimination against minorities and actually making their lives difficult, but will fly into a rage should somebody be recorded saying something racist.  Thought crimes > actual crimes?

Indeed. :(
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 01, 2014, 09:44:29 AM
Valerie Jarrett on CNBC this morning talking about this. I wish the White House would grasp the concept of some things are beneath comment and should be ignored by the people with nuke-shooting authority.

Agreed, though I didn't fault Obama's statement - "When ignorant folks want to advertise their ignorance, you don't really have to do anything, you just let them talk. That's what happened here."
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

derspiess

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Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 01, 2014, 09:44:29 AM
Valerie Jarrett on CNBC this morning talking about this. I wish the White House would grasp the concept of some things are beneath comment and should be ignored by the people with nuke-shooting authority.

Race issues or issues vaguely associated with race are red meat for this administration.  It's like they can't help but inject themselves into the conversation.

<cue indignant Seedy rage>
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

Quote from: derspiess on May 01, 2014, 10:00:31 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 01, 2014, 09:44:29 AM
Valerie Jarrett on CNBC this morning talking about this. I wish the White House would grasp the concept of some things are beneath comment and should be ignored by the people with nuke-shooting authority.

Race issues or issues vaguely associated with race are red meat for this administration.  It's like they can't help but inject themselves into the conversation.

<cue indignant Seedy rage>

As long as we can avoid another beer summit.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

derspiess

Quote from: garbon on May 01, 2014, 10:14:11 AM
As long as we can avoid another beer summit.

BEER BRINGS US TOGETHER
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

alfred russel

Quote from: garbon on May 01, 2014, 09:57:22 AM

Agreed, though I didn't fault Obama's statement - "When ignorant folks want to advertise their ignorance, you don't really have to do anything, you just let them talk. That's what happened here."

But then they fined him, suspended him, and are forcing him to sell his NBA team. I wonder if Obama felt that was unnecessary.
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derspiess

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Quote from: alfred russel on May 01, 2014, 10:20:39 AM
But then they fined him, suspended him, and are forcing him to sell his NBA team. I wonder if Obama felt that was unnecessary.

Yeah, pretty much.  edit: oops, reverse that

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/30/obama-donald-sterling_n_5241411.html

QuoteObama Thinks NBA 'Has Done The Right Thing' By Banning Donald Sterling, Says WH Spokesman

I think if he had just stopped after that first sentence grabon quoted, he'd have nailed it.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Sheilbh

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 01, 2014, 09:44:29 AM
Valerie Jarrett on CNBC this morning talking about this. I wish the White House would grasp the concept of some things are beneath comment and should be ignored by the people with nuke-shooting authority.
It unreasonably annoys me too.

I think the worst was when the PM's spokesman gave a comment on the pricing of the England football shirt :bleeding:
Let's bomb Russia!

sbr

Are we talking about unprovoked statements or answering a question?

crazy canuck

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Quote from: Barrister on April 30, 2014, 11:44:32 AM
I was a little bit surprised Silver was going to try and force Sterling to sell.  It gives Sterling no reason not to sue.

:huh:

Why would Sterling want to keep a team that had no fans in the stands, sponsors or players - because that is exactly what would happen if he tried to keep the team.

If he sells now he will get a tidy ROE.  He has plenty of movitivation to sell and not sue.

Sell, *then* sue.  :) Allege that the team was worth more, but for the (alleged) illegal forced sale. No dount the other side will argue that it wasn't, and that in fact selling was the best financial option ...


Yes, that is something that might happen.  I just dont see the argument BB is making that he loses nothing by attempting to hang onto the team.

Sterling is already worth a billion dollars apart from the Clippers.  The prestige and influence of being an NBA owner is much more important to the guy than even a couple hundred million dollars (and even then I'm not sure why launching a lawsuit against the NBA would decrease the value of the team).

Now you are just repeating yourself.  If you think this guy will have any prestige and influence derived from owning a team after this, I wonder what definition you are using for those words.

derspiess

Quote from: sbr on May 01, 2014, 11:16:07 AM
Are we talking about unprovoked statements or answering a question?

Answering a question and giving a bit too elaborate of an answer.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Capetan Mihali

It fucking makes my blood boil when politicians' spokesmen give slightly too-elaborate answers to questions they were asked about current news.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Valmy on May 01, 2014, 09:30:52 AM
Freedom to unethical business practices?  :P

Though I do find it sort of interesting we seem to have less of a problem with actually discrimination against minorities and actually making their lives difficult, but will fly into a rage should somebody be recorded saying something racist.  Thought crimes > actual crimes?

Perhaps the amount of problem we have with actual discrimination is a function of its scarcity.

garbon

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 01, 2014, 12:38:21 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 01, 2014, 09:30:52 AM
Freedom to unethical business practices?  :P

Though I do find it sort of interesting we seem to have less of a problem with actually discrimination against minorities and actually making their lives difficult, but will fly into a rage should somebody be recorded saying something racist.  Thought crimes > actual crimes?

Perhaps the amount of problem we have with actual discrimination is a function of its scarcity.

:lmfao:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

derspiess

Quote from: Capetan Mihali on May 01, 2014, 12:34:54 PM
It fucking makes my blood boil when politicians' spokesmen give slightly too-elaborate answers to questions they were asked about current news.

And politicians themselves.  That must make your blood boil extra hot.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall