NCAA Football, 2014-2015

[Rasputin]

I am stunned that FSU didn't kick Winston out of school 10 days before the football playoff starts and 23 days before he leaves school on his own.

so major harding, the independent hearing officer both sides agreed to sold his soul for what?

I don't know.  I didn't pay much attention to details about the hearing because I knew it would be as much a farce as the police investigation into the alleged rape was.

well you and grumbler cynacally see eye to eye on this one.

Perhaps you should read through the investigative materials and harding's decision? They are all public records available online. Dont let me stop you from judging the case on media snippets instead of the evidence itself though.

A white woman did after all accuse a southern black man of rape. I've read to kill a mockingbird, thats all the evidence one needs to adjudicate guilt.

[sbr]

When did I say he was guilty?  I even said alleged rape in my last post. 

[CountDeMoney]

A white woman did after all accuse a southern black man of rape. I've read to kill a mockingbird, thats all the evidence one needs to adjudicate guilt.

Touche'.

[Rasputin]

A white woman did after all accuse a southern black man of rape. I've read to kill a mockingbird, thats all the evidence one needs to adjudicate guilt.

Touche'.

i channeled my inner seedy on that gem

[CountDeMoney]

You certainly did.

[Rasputin]

When did I say he was guilty?  I even said alleged rape in my last post. 

no worse than that, you concluded the hearing was a farce without reading the decision and concluded the investigation was likewise a farce without reading the investigative files, and then earlier you showed your ignorance on the hearing by suggesting that fsu made a decision instead of recognizing that the independent hearing officer to whom  both sides agreed reached a decision after taking evidence for two days

[Berkut]

The evidence is clear that he is a fine, upstanding young man who would never, ever do anything wrong whatsoever. A credit to his school and fans.

[alfred russel]

So former Florida Supreme Court Chief Justice (and former trial judge) Major Harding (wake forest undergrad, uva law grad) has found after a two day hearing that the evidence against winston faile to even meet the "more likely than not" standard. (Not surprisingly our resident universal expert previously opined that the investigative file of willie meggs (the state attorney who declined to prosecute ) reflected proof beyond a reasonable doubt.)

What you left out is that such judges go before voters in Florida. I'm not shocked that a quasi politician living in Tallahassee would side with Winston.

Also, I'm suspecting FSU has taken Winston out of the normal routine for students. I doubt student Joe Blow has former Supreme Court justices deciding his student conduct hearings.

[grumbler]

i don't know.  I didn't pay much attention to details about the hearing because I knew it would be as much a farce as the police investigation into the alleged rape was.

Sorry, sbr, Rasputin doesn't really care what you think, he only cares what I think.  And I think that is just adorable.

[Rasputin]

So former Florida Supreme Court Chief Justice (and former trial judge) Major Harding (wake forest undergrad, uva law grad) has found after a two day hearing that the evidence against winston faile to even meet the "more likely than not" standard. (Not surprisingly our resident universal expert previously opined that the investigative file of willie meggs (the state attorney who declined to prosecute ) reflected proof beyond a reasonable doubt.)

What you left out is that such judges go before voters in Florida. I'm not shocked that a quasi politician living in Tallahassee would side with Winston.

Also, I'm suspecting FSU has taken Winston out of the normal routine for students. I doubt student Joe Blow has former Supreme Court justices deciding his student conduct hearings.

former judges by definition do not go before voters and supreme court justices are not elected at all but instead are appointed by governors off of lists that bar committees send to the governors

[Rasputin]

i don't know.  I didn't pay much attention to details about the hearing because I knew it would be as much a farce as the police investigation into the alleged rape was.

Sorry, sbr, Rasputin doesn't really care what you think, he only cares what I think.  And I think that is just adorable.

i dont care what you think but i am quite the admirer of your stubborness in the face of contrary facts and and your mendacity when asked whether your conclusions flowed from second hand sources or your own review of the primary source materials

[Rasputin]

The evidence is clear that he is a fine, upstanding young man who would never, ever do anything wrong whatsoever. A credit to his school and fans.

nope; but the evidence fails to to show that he commited a rape, even applying the low civil standard to the evidence

[MadBurgerMaker]

Soooooooooooo how about that Miami Beach Bowl?   Pretty good game. 

[Ed Anger]

I was taking a nap.

[Berkut]

You know what really sucks about all of this?

That I have to depend on Oregon to restore some measure of credibility, faith, and honor to college football. The irony.