NCAA Football, 2014-2015

[CountDeMoney]

Only Dorsey4Heisman could turn the ND-FSU game into the fucking Warren Commission.  Even the Pope's moved on, fool.

[Berkut]

No shit.

[alfred russel]

The rules state that the offense cannot go downfield and screen/block/make contact with defenders on a pass beyond the line of scrimmage. They did so. It is OPI.

I quit talking about whether it was pass interference because the play was over a week ago. I was focusing on your statements that were made in a highly insulting way that it was a screen play, which there is significant evidence simply isn't true.

But, your statement above is not really correct either. Receivers can make contact with DBs--they do so all the time when the DBs press them. In this case, both DBs were pressing the ND receivers that "blocked" them. You pointing out earlier that the defenders were moving back was an odd thing to say--of course they were moving back--when you press guys in man to man coverage without over the top help, you sure as hell better start moving back or there won't be anyone in coverage once the receiver gets off the line.

[alfred russel]

No shit.

It takes 2 to tango.

[alfred russel]

The real tragedy of all this is that FSU is accumulating all these wins that is going to create so much sadness when they get vacated.

[sbr]

You pointing out earlier that the defenders were moving back was an odd thing to say--of course they were moving back--when you press guys in man to man coverage without over the top help, you sure as hell better start moving back or there won't be anyone in coverage once the receiver gets off the line.

Are you sure you know what "press" means in this context?

[Berkut]

By "press" he means they are counting on talking heads in the press to explain how the officials screwed up the call.

[derspiess]

TCU is kind of scary. derspiess, I'm worried about your boys.

Yep, but hell-- Game Day will be in Morgantown and WVU is a pretty good team at home.  Only thing I can guarantee is that TCU won't put up 82 points.

[grumbler]

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/3298649E861135469641834364928_2a09ba49bac.5.1.640382532488847293.mp4?versionId=RupcUgdzgOPws_QPJnqLdjDoxxU_tdKA
This is the video I referred to earlier.  Note how the second receiver in (#20) hits the defensive back (who never steps forward), grabs the jersey, and drives the DB into the end zone, never turning around and only releasing the block on the whistle.  I don't think that he was the player mentioned by the refs, but his play clearly was illegal.

The WR (#7) at the end of the line doesn't appear to be seeking contact and does break free of the press as the play ends. I think the refs just got confused as to which player had committed the foul (if the foul was called on #7)

It was a blown coverage by FSU, and it was boneheaded of ND to commit a foul where none was necessary.

[alfred russel]

You pointing out earlier that the defenders were moving back was an odd thing to say--of course they were moving back--when you press guys in man to man coverage without over the top help, you sure as hell better start moving back or there won't be anyone in coverage once the receiver gets off the line.

Are you sure you know what "press" means in this context?

Yeah, jam / physically impede the route.

By "press" he means they are counting on talking heads in the press to explain how the officials screwed up the call.

Hey, you were the one that said anyone who didn't know they were running a screen had a "serious and dedicated lack of understanding of football". A lot of those talking heads have rather substantial careers in the sport.

[sbr]

You pointing out earlier that the defenders were moving back was an odd thing to say--of course they were moving back--when you press guys in man to man coverage without over the top help, you sure as hell better start moving back or there won't be anyone in coverage once the receiver gets off the line.

Are you sure you know what "press" means in this context?

Yeah, jam / physically impede the route.

By backing up?  They were at the 2 yard line; safety help over the top is of no concern at all at that spot on the field and anyone in press coverage rarely gives the receiver a free release especially at the 2 yard line.

[alfred russel]

By backing up?  They were at the 2 yard line; safety help over the top is of no concern at all at that spot on the field and anyone in press coverage rarely gives the receiver a free release especially at the 2 yard line.

Yes, obviously not at full speed.

Over the top help is a concern at the 2 yard line: if you are flatfooted at the line of scrimmage when the receiver gets by you he will end up all alone at the back of the endzone. If the receiver is at the line, you can make some initial contact before starting to go back, but in either case (and initially if the receiver does not line up on the line of scrimmage) you need to get some backward motion.

[alfred russel]

TCU is kind of scary. derspiess, I'm worried about your boys.

Yep, but hell-- Game Day will be in Morgantown and WVU is a pretty good team at home.  Only thing I can guarantee is that TCU won't put up 82 points.

They are apparently only 5.5 point underdogs.

[grumbler]

Big Ten officials admit that they gave the game to OSU.  Apparently, the blatantly obvious non-interception interception call couldn't be overturned because the replay officials didn't have the replay feed, and the 49-yard OSU field goal made after the clock expired was just a fuckup.  That's pretty much 10 gratis points to OSU in a game that went to overtime.

[Berkut]

Link?