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The Mystery of Missing Malaysia Airlines 370

Started by jimmy olsen, March 08, 2014, 11:29:08 AM

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OttoVonBismarck

Quote from: Caliga on March 20, 2014, 08:57:53 AM
My post was a reference to a prior thread we had where TIGHAR came up.  Those are they guys who think AE crashed on Nikumaroro/Gardner and survived for a short while as a castaway.  Meanwhile according to this theory her Lockheed Electra was broken up by heavy surf and slid down the reef slope into the deep.  Their forum is publicly viewable @ tighar.org and I lurk there because, while I've never come around to their theory, it's an interesting collection of folks with a lot of aviation knowledge between them (some of it professional).

I thought those were guys you've posted about before who were crazy...and didn't one of them come here once spouting random crazy stuff? Or am I thinking of something else...

Caliga

Some of them are a bit odd, yes.  What you're remembering is not one who came here, but one who found a post I made on here mocking him via Google and responded to it on their forum.
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Maximus

Quote from: Berkut on March 20, 2014, 12:43:43 PM
Saw something that debunked that...but I forget where.

Apparently the turn was made a while before the pilot signed off.

MadImmortalMan

From Monday. Still the most plausible thing.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-17/finally-plausible-scenario-what-happened-flight-370



Then again, they have this going around the Kremlin...

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Malaysian Flight 370 Hijacked by US Navy to protect 'Suspicious Cargo' – Russia
15 Mar 2014 A new report circulating in the Kremlin prepared by the Russian Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (GRU) states that Aerospace Defence Forces (VKO) experts remain "puzzled" as to why the United States Navy "captured and then diverted" a Malaysia Airlines civilian aircraft from its intended flight-path to their vast and highly-secretive Indian Ocean base located on the Diego Garcia atoll... Interesting to note, this report says, was that Flight 370 was already under GRU "surveillance" after it received a "highly suspicious" cargo load that had been traced to the Indian Ocean nation Republic of Seychelles, and where it had previously been aboard the US-flagged container ship MV Maersk Alabama. What first aroused GRU suspicions regarding the MV Maersk Alabama, this report continues, was that within 24-hours of off-loading this "highly suspicious" cargo load bound for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the two highly-trained US Navy SEALS assigned to protect it, Mark Daniel Kennedy, 43, and Jeffrey Keith Reynolds, 44, were found dead under "suspicious circumstances."
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Admiral Yi

I was buying it until they talked about forty year old SEALs.  :rolleyes:

MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 21, 2014, 02:38:25 PM
I was buying it until they talked about forty year old SEALs.  :rolleyes:

Ex-SEALs working for a specialized security company.
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Razgovory

Quote from: The Brain on March 20, 2014, 11:25:23 AM
Maybe we are in a small black hole?

Possibly.  I've heard a theory that we are actually 2D objects projected off the surface of a black hole.  I am in no position to endorse or condemn this theory.
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Grinning_Colossus

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 21, 2014, 02:29:07 PM
From Monday. Still the most plausible thing.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-17/finally-plausible-scenario-what-happened-flight-370


I don't know, you'd think that a guy who's spent 18,000 hours in the cockpit and surely thousands more in that flight simulator of his would know exactly where the airstrips along the southern route would be and wouldn't become disoriented easily. If the plane did head south, it seems more likely that the pilots just died.
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The Brain

Quote from: Razgovory on March 21, 2014, 02:50:11 PM
Quote from: The Brain on March 20, 2014, 11:25:23 AM
Maybe we are in a small black hole?

Possibly.  I've heard a theory that we are actually 2D objects projected off the surface of a black hole.  I am in no position to endorse or condemn this theory.

I thought about it and we're not in a small black hole. katmai :contract:
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Monoriu

I think it is ridiculous in the age of satellites, GPS, internet etc that we still have to look for a missing plane using search planes and telescopes.  I refuse to believe that it is technologically impossible to track a large civilian plane even if it crashes into the ocean.  They just don't bother putting those systems into the planes. 

Razgovory

Are we going to have a news story every time the Chinese see a some junk floating in the water?  Cause there's lots of junk floating in the ocean.
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grumbler

Quote from: Monoriu on March 22, 2014, 08:03:25 AM
I think it is ridiculous in the age of satellites, GPS, internet etc that we still have to look for a missing plane using search planes and telescopes.  I refuse to believe that it is technologically impossible to track a large civilian plane even if it crashes into the ocean.  They just don't bother putting those systems into the planes.

it would be technologically possible, but very expensive (since you would have to do this with sonar, not radio).  "They just don't bother" raising ticket prices by $200/seat/flight (or whatever) to pay for "putting those systems into the planes."
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Monoriu

Quote from: grumbler on March 22, 2014, 08:57:10 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on March 22, 2014, 08:03:25 AM
I think it is ridiculous in the age of satellites, GPS, internet etc that we still have to look for a missing plane using search planes and telescopes.  I refuse to believe that it is technologically impossible to track a large civilian plane even if it crashes into the ocean.  They just don't bother putting those systems into the planes.

it would be technologically possible, but very expensive (since you would have to do this with sonar, not radio).  "They just don't bother" raising ticket prices by $200/seat/flight (or whatever) to pay for "putting those systems into the planes."

Is there any way they can make the transmitter float?