Surprise Defeat for Obama in Senate Confirmation Vote

[citizen k]

Sounds like a do-nothing job to me.  Probably get to hang out with Jesse Jackson Southern Poverty Law Center all day.

[jimmy olsen]

I'm kinda surprised they were able to get as many votes as they did.  Mumia is the worst.

He's a piece of shit cop killer.  If not for the fact that he also happens to be eloquent, he'd already have been executed and nobody would care about him.

John Adams defended British soldiers who killed unarmed protestors because he believed that every one deserves a fair trail. It was true then and it's true now. Everyone deserves competent defense, even scum like Mumia and the British. To argue otherwise is simply unamerican and bespeaks the speakers fondness for authoritarianism.

[Valmy]

John Adams defended British soldiers who killed unarmed protestors because he believed that every one deserves a fair trail. It was true then and it's true now. Every one deserves competent defense, even scum like Mumia and the British.

The British?  Really?  Are you not familiar with the trial?

To argue otherwise is simply unamerican and bespeaks the speakers fondness for authoritarianism.

Well Cal is fond of bowing down to well endowed women.

[jimmy olsen]

John Adams defended British soldiers who killed unarmed protestors because he believed that every one deserves a fair trail. It was true then and it's true now. Every one deserves competent defense, even scum like Mumia and the British.

The British?  Really?  Are you not familiar with the trial?

A quick look online indicates that I remember the basics correctly.

http://www.loc.gov/law/help/rare-books/john_adams.php

[Phillip V]

I'm kinda surprised they were able to get as many votes as they did.  Mumia is the worst.

He's a piece of shit cop killer.  If not for the fact that he also happens to be eloquent, he'd already have been executed and nobody would care about him.

John Adams defended British soldiers who killed unarmed protestors because he believed that every one deserves a fair trail. It was true then and it's true now. Everyone deserves competent defense, even scum like Mumia and the British. To argue otherwise is simply unamerican and bespeaks the speakers fondness for authoritarianism.

Then it is a good thing then that Adams was never allowed to head the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division.

[garbon]

Here is what the division does.

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2014/March/14-crt-235.html

[Razgovory]

Why is this a surprise?

Everyone thought it would be close, but I don't think many expected that many Dems to vote against. Obama usually does better than that in Senate votes.

Who's "everyone" here?

[Caliga]

John Adams defended British soldiers who killed unarmed protestors because he believed that every one deserves a fair trail. It was true then and it's true now. Everyone deserves competent defense, even scum like Mumia and the British. To argue otherwise is simply unamerican and bespeaks the speakers fondness for authoritarianism.

Where did I say Mumia didn't deserve a competent defense?

[Caliga]

See, this is why I miss Mart.  If he was still around he would have replied by now and told me I was the piece of shit for not applauding Mumia for killing a cop.

[OttoVonBismarck]

The Civil Rights Division does some real work I think but like most political heads the head of it is just a poster-boy / window dressing, it always goes to a minority lawyer and it's usually a hollow position in any case.

[Valmy]

A quick look online indicates that I remember the basics correctly.

http://www.loc.gov/law/help/rare-books/john_adams.php

OK I guess I missed where the British were scum there.

[The Minsky Moment]

I think the bigger point is Jimmy is dead wrong: neither Mumia nor the British peretrators of the Boston Massacre deserve a fair trail.  In fact, they shouldn't be out hiking at all.  And I'm pretty sure John Adams believed the same thing.

[Ideologue]

Mowing down secessionists deserves a medal, not a trial.

[Ed Anger]

I think the bigger point is Jimmy is dead wrong: neither Mumia nor the British peretrators of the Boston Massacre deserve a fair trail.  In fact, they shouldn't be out hiking at all.  And I'm pretty sure John Adams believed the same thing.

HA!

[derspiess]

Why is this a surprise?

Everyone thought it would be close, but I don't think many expected that many Dems to vote against. Obama usually does better than that in Senate votes.

Who's "everyone" here?

Never mind, Raz.