Egyptian Army can cure AIDS, Hepatitis C

[Syt]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/27/egypts-army-claims-it-found-cure-aids-hepatitis-c/

Egypt's army claims it found cure for AIDS, hepatitis C

The Egyptian military medical community claims it has found a cure for AIDS and hepatitis C.

"I defeated AIDS with the grace of my God at the rate of 100 percent. And I defeated hepatitis C," said Maj. Gen. Ibrahim Abdel-Atti, the head of the Cancer Treatment and Screening Center, in CNN.

It didn't take long for some in the medical world to erupt in criticism.

"I want to be clear and explicit — what has been said and published about the invention of the armed forces hurts the image of scientists and science in Egypt," said Essam Heggy, the scientific adviser to the president, in a statement to a local newspaper reported by CNN. He also said the announcement of a cure was a "scientific scandal" for Egypt.

The army medical community uses what's called a "Complete Cure Device" to draw blood from the patient. The disease in the drawn blood is then reportedly broken down, purified and put back in the patient, said Dr. Ihsan Hanfy Hussein, a member of Mr. Abdel-Atti's research team, in CNN.

"I will take the AIDS from the patient, and I will nourish the patient on the AIDS treatment," he said, in CNN. "I will give it to him like a skewer of Kofta [ground meat dish] to nourish him. I will take it away from him as a disease and give it back to him in the form of a cure. This is the greatest form of scientific breakthrough."

He said the cure can be completed in as little as 16 hours.

[Malthus]

I see the Egyptian army is as good at medicine as it is at warfare. Is there nothing it cannot do? 

[derspiess]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/27/egypts-army-claims-it-found-cure-aids-hepatitis-c/
"I will give it to him like a skewer of Kofta [ground meat dish] to nourish him. "

[Syt]

I could go for some köfte tonight.

[Malthus]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/27/egypts-army-claims-it-found-cure-aids-hepatitis-c/
"I will give it to him like a skewer of Kofta [ground meat dish] to nourish him. "

Yum-yum. Egyptian Army AIDS kabobs. 

[Syt]

A bit more detail.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/28/egypt-unveil-device-detects-cures-aids

Egypt's military leaders unveil devices they claim can detect and cure Aids

Devices, made public by the chief army engineer, are dismissed by experts around the world and called 'shocking to scientists'


General Abdel Fatah el-Sisi, who is expected to run for president of Egypt, attended the launch of the new device. Photograph: ITAR-TASS / Barcroft Media

Egypt's military leaders have come under ridicule after the chief army engineer unveiled what he described as a "miraculous" set of devices that detect and cure Aids, hepatitis and other viruses.

The claim, dismissed by experts and called "shocking to scientists" by the president's science adviser, strikes a blow to the army's carefully managed image as the saviour of the nation. It also comes as General Abdel Fatah el-Sisi, who toppled Mohammed Morsi in July after the Islamist leader ignored mass protests calling for him to step down, is expected to announce he will run for president.

The televised presentation – which was made to Sisi, the interim president Adly Mansour and other senior officials – raised concerns that the military's offer of seemingly inconceivable future devices will draw Egypt back into the broken promises of authoritarian rule, when Hosni Mubarak frequently announced grand initiatives that failed to meet expectations.

"The men of the armed forces have achieved a scientific leap by inventing the detecting devices," the military spokesman Colonel Ahmed Mohammed Ali wrote later on his official Facebook page. Ali said a patent has been filed under the name of the Armed Forces Engineering Agency.

Well-known writer Hamdi Rizk noted that video clips of the presentation had gone viral on social media, with tweets and blogs saying the military had made a fool of itself and put its reputation in jeopardy. "The marshal's camp has been dealt a deep moral defeat," he wrote in a column in Thursday's Al-Masry Al-Youm newspaper. "God give mercy to ... the reputation of the Egyptian army, which became the target of cyber shelling around the clock."

Professor Massimo Pinzani, a liver specialist and director of the Institute for Liver and Digestive Health at University College London, said he attended a demonstration of the devices during a visit to Egypt but "was not given convincing explanations about the technology" and was not allowed to try it for himself.

"As it is at present, the device is proposed without any convincing technical and scientific basis and until this is clearly provided it should be regarded as a potential fraud," he wrote in an email to The Associated Press. None of the research has been published in a reputable journal.

The uproar escalated when a scientific adviser to Egypt's interim President Adly Mansour denounced the claim and said it has no scientific base. "What has been said and published by the armed forces harms the image of the scientists and science in Egypt," Essam Heggy, a planetary scientist at the California Institute of Technology, told the daily newspaper El-Watan in remarks published on Wednesday. "All scientists inside and outside Egypt are in a state of shock."

He added that both Mansour and Sisi were surprised and their presence in the audience did not indicate approval. The furore started when major general Taher Abdullah, the head of the Engineering Agency in the Armed Forces, gave a widely televised presentation to Sisi and other senior officials on what he calls an "astonishing miraculous scientific invention."

Abdullah said two of the devices named C-Fast and I-Fast used electromagnetism to detect Aids, hepatitis and other viruses without taking blood samples while the third, named Complete Cure Device, acted as a dialysis unit to purify the blood. He also said the C-Fast, which looks like an antenna affixed to the handle of a blender, detected patients infected with viruses that cause hepatitis and Aids with a high success rate.

A short film aired during the presentation showed the engineering team's leader major general Ibrahim Abdel-Atti telling a patient: "All the results are great, showing you had Aids but you were cured. Thank God." The patient replies: "Thank God."

The next day, Abdel-Atti and his team held their own press conference at which the scientist said "I take Aids from the patient and nourish the patient on the Aids by giving him a skewer of Aids kofta". .

Gamal Shiha, head of the Association for Liver Patients Care, one of Egypt's prominent centres that worked alongside with the military, said he was angry about the "hasty" announcements. He said only one of the devices – C-Fast – underwent thorough testing.

Shiha said the C-Fast uses electromagnetic frequencies similar to those used in bomb detectors and radars and had been tested on more than 2,000 patients with a high success rate. "The technology of C-Fast is effective without doubt," he said. However, he dismissed the claims that the other two devices detect Aids and cure viruses.

Despite the scepticism, health ministry spokesman Mohammed Fathallah said the ministry recognises the devices as legitimate. Egypt's former Health Minister Amr Helmi, a liver surgeon by profession, said C-Fast had been approved by the ministry two years ago but he had never before heard of the other two devices.

For the general public, the uproar added to the uncertainty already fueled by years of turmoil since Mubarak's overthrow in February 2011. "I hope that the invention turns out to be true but I don't have confidence this is the case," said 35-year-old taxi driver Ahmed Morad. "I don't believe anyone ... everything is very confusing. It is like a salad."

[garbon]

Aids with just one capital letter looks a little odd.

[Valmy]

“The army medical community uses what's called a "Complete Cure Device" to draw blood from the patient. The disease in the drawn blood is then reportedly broken down, purified and put back in the patient, said Dr. Ihsan Hanfy Hussein, a member of Mr. Abdel-Atti's research team, in CNN.
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They sure are going out of their way to make it sound like pseudo-scientific nonsense and they are quacks.  Bad PR.

[derspiess]

Wonder if this dude can do the autopsy on that Bigfoot corpse.

[Eddie Teach]

Has anyone thought to try leeches before? 

[The Brain]

  I like how everyone's "just because they're Arabs they can't get anything right ever" and shit. Racists.

[Caliga]

BREAKING NEWS:  Device used by the Egyptian Army to cure AIDS, Hepatitis C disclosed!

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[Ed Anger]

MAH BULLETS

[Viking]

I see the Egyptian army is as good at medicine as it is at warfare. Is there nothing it cannot do? 

I was at the Egyptian Army Museum in the Cairo Citadel. There I learned the Egyptian Army won the war in 1973 and El Alamein.

The Museum had a thorough coverage of the entire history of they Egyptian armed forces since the Islamic conquest, with the exception of 5 June to 10 June 1967, during which NOTHING HAPPENED!!

[Queequeg]

Doesn't Egypt have the most pathetic military record of any nation in the last, um, 2,000 years?  It doesn't have enough wood for a real navy or pasture for horses so they just get slaughtered.