Nimitz' WWII 'diary' to be unveiled online on Monday

[Caliga]

Oh, to your earlier point about later immigrants staying in closer touch with the Fatherland: Princesca's German ancestors mostly came over much later (c. 1840s) and in fact are still in touch with distant German cousins today.

[Ed Anger]

Oh, to your earlier point about later immigrants staying in closer touch with the Fatherland: Princesca's German ancestors mostly came over much later (c. 1840s) and in fact are still in touch with distant German cousins today.

I'm leery of talking to my European cousins. A lecture in every email. Blergh.

[Valmy]

Oh, to your earlier point about later immigrants staying in closer touch with the Fatherland: Princesca's German ancestors mostly came over much later (c. 1840s) and in fact are still in touch with distant German cousins today.

I'm leery of talking to my European cousins. A lecture in every email. Blergh.

'Dear Heartless Neo-Liberal Capitalist Cousin,'

[derspiess]

Oh, on the anti-French thing... it's always been a thing in my family and among other Dutchies that I know of to make French and Catholic jokes, but we're talking ribbing as opposed to vile hatred, similar to how people make Polack jokes but don't actually hate the Poles.  I have a feeling that those ancestors came over with a deep hatred of France and the Church, but over time and generations it 'evolved' into something much milder as generational distance between their European ancestors' misery increased.

Lucky-- we never had such jokes in either side of my family.  Not too many German traditions survived-- all I can remember is on New Years Day my Grandpa would serve sauerkraut with a silver dollar at the bottom of the bowl or plate for good luck.  He swore it was a German tradition but I've never heard much about it elsewhere.

[Caliga]

  I've seen some of the letters/emails and they're not that bad.  Keep in mind that Germans are probably the least retarded Euros, which is probably why they inevitably come to dominate Europe over and over despite being stomped into the ground every few generations.

[derspiess]

Oh, to your earlier point about later immigrants staying in closer touch with the Fatherland: Princesca's German ancestors mostly came over much later (c. 1840s) and in fact are still in touch with distant German cousins today.

All my Kraut ancestors came over prior to the 1840s and apparently clashed with the more liberal-minded 1848'ers.

[Valmy]

The primary German traditions that got passed down in my family were heavy drinking and swearing.  Even after they all went dry during the temperance craze they still used booze for erm...medicinal purposes.

[garbon]

since my family tree is so gigantic.

Wouldn't that be the case for many people?

I meant my documented family tree, obviously. 

I know but it seems to me while you've many branches to check down, much more easier than if you didn't have a lot of information on your family tree. I currently only know back 3 greats on one branch, so it would be much harder for me to find out if I had family from Basel.

[derspiess]

The primary German traditions that got passed down in my family were heavy drinking and swearing.  Even after they all went dry during the temperance craze they still used booze for erm...medicinal purposes.

All four of my grandparents were teetotalers, and only one of them ever cursed.  Loved them, but they were about as boring as you could get.

[CountDeMoney]

Yay, the most interesting development in years in US naval history, and the thread turns into a Germanic-descent pickelhaube measuring contest.

[Valmy]

I know but it seems to me while you've many branches to check down, much more easier than if you didn't have a lot of information on your family tree. I currently only know back 3 greats on one branch, so it would be much harder for me to find out if I had family from Basel.

Desire...to find...garbon's ancestors growing...

Man I need help.

[derspiess]

Yay, the most interesting development in years in US naval history, and the thread turns into a Germanic-descent pickelhaube measuring contest.

Yeah, and you're holding out on us.  You had a genuine Opa, didn't you??

Besides, the diary won't be released til Mundee.

[CountDeMoney]

  

My Poppy was just your run-of-the-mill Baden-Württemberger, from a little town called Schriesheim, the son of a viciously abusive baker and who ran off to see the world from the decks of tramp steamers and managed to get the hell out of Dodge Stadt just in time to avoid the new German chancellor with the funny ideas.

[Valmy]

My Poppy was just your run-of-the-mill Baden-Württemberger, from a little town called Schriesheim, the son of a viciously abusive baker and who ran off to see the world from the decks of tramp steamers and managed to get the hell out of Dodge Stadt just in time to avoid the new German chancellor with the funny ideas.

Willy Brandt was pretty radical wasn't he?

[grumbler]

It will be interesting to see if this diary says anything about Nimitz's  hopes for the effectiveness of the US submarine force.  I know a lot of non-bubbleheads thought that subs might even prevent an invasion of the Philippines, and that was why so many subs had been forward-deployed to Manila, but I am curious as the what Nimitz, a bubblehead himself, thought (or, at least, indicated in his messages).  It will also be interesting to see when the CinC realized that his subs were not doing shit.