Utah gives homeless people homes, on track to eliminate homelessness by 2015

[jimmy olsen]

Looks like CdM has fall back position in Salt Lake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LY_k8J2rE-Q

[garbon]

Someone is getting too big for his britches.

[Grey Fox]

Motherfucking right, Tim!

[Caliga]

Is Utah sure that it's an ultra conservative state?

First the mayor of Salt Lake City starts performing gay marriages, and next they bend over backwards to help homeless people instead of yelling at them to stop failing and try harder 

[Valmy]

Is Utah sure that it's an ultra conservative state?

First the mayor of Salt Lake City starts performing gay marriages, and next they bend over backwards to help homeless people instead of yelling at them to stop failing and try harder 

They are ultra-conservative but they are really nice to everybody.  That is how Mormons roll.

[jimmy olsen]

Is Utah sure that it's an ultra conservative state?

First the mayor of Salt Lake City starts performing gay marriages, and next they bend over backwards to help homeless people instead of yelling at them to stop failing and try harder 

They ran the number and it averages 5,000 dollars cheaper to do it this way.

[Admiral Yi]

Leaving aside the issue of The Young Turk's journalistic credentials, the purported savings come from a comparison of average spending on emergency room visits and jail time for a homeless person ($16,000) versus the cost of an apartment and regular visits from a social worker and a case worker ($11,000). 

Do homeless people stop going to the ER and committing crime once they have an abode?

[Tonitrus]

Probably less inclined.

But I am also sure some of the individual mental illness cases would contrast rather strikingly that average cost.

[CountDeMoney]

Someone is getting too big for his britches.

No kidding, right?  He doesn't even do it with cunty panache, either.

[garbon]

Someone is getting too big for his britches.

No kidding, right?  He doesn't even do it with cunty panache, either.

This shit be all natural and it can't be taught.

[Razgovory]

Leaving aside the issue of The Young Turk's journalistic credentials, the purported savings come from a comparison of average spending on emergency room visits and jail time for a homeless person ($16,000) versus the cost of an apartment and regular visits from a social worker and a case worker ($11,000). 

Do homeless people stop going to the ER and committing crime once they have an abode?

I image people suffer less from exposure and disease when they can live in a house.  Don't know about jail.

[Darth Wagtaros]

Leaving aside the issue of The Young Turk's journalistic credentials, the purported savings come from a comparison of average spending on emergency room visits and jail time for a homeless person ($16,000) versus the cost of an apartment and regular visits from a social worker and a case worker ($11,000). 

Do homeless people stop going to the ER and committing crime once they have an abode?

I image people suffer less from exposure and disease when they can live in a house.  Don't know about jail.

If only Paul Atreidies were here. 


Won't they need to spend a ton on meds for those with bipolar or schizophrenia?  Otherwise they'll just be sticking messed up people into soon to be destroyed houses?

[DontSayBanana]

If only Paul Atreidies were here. 

Won't they need to spend a ton on meds for those with bipolar or schizophrenia?  Otherwise they'll just be sticking messed up people into soon to be destroyed houses?

Can't speak for schizophrenia (wanna help out, Raz, since you're fairly close on the spectrum?), but I'm bipolar and my annual treatment cost is $528 a year between office visits and medication, of which I pay $168.  Most of the bipolar disorder medications are generic and heavily subsidized into the "go to Walmart and pick up a 30-day supply for $4" category.

[Razgovory]

If only Paul Atreidies were here. 

Won't they need to spend a ton on meds for those with bipolar or schizophrenia?  Otherwise they'll just be sticking messed up people into soon to be destroyed houses?

Can't speak for schizophrenia (wanna help out, Raz, since you're fairly close on the spectrum?), but I'm bipolar and my annual treatment cost is $528 a year between office visits and medication, of which I pay $168.  Most of the bipolar disorder medications are generic and heavily subsidized into the "go to Walmart and pick up a 30-day supply for $4" category.

Yeah, I get my meds cheap, so I imagine that meds are already covered.  And people are probably more likely to take their meds if they have a place to store them.

[Josquius]

I'm very dubious about elimating homelessness. Surely a not insubstantial number of them choose to be homeless whilst others are too crazy to accept this house, as it is obviously a trap.