Senator threatens NFL's tax-exempt status over the Redskins name

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Admiral Yi

It helps that Chief Yahoo is so somber and impressive looking.  And that his name is so historically correct.

celedhring

What's wrong with the Braves? The Indians have a bad name and a horrible mascot, but to my ignorant knowledge the Braves look "fine".

Valmy

Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on July 02, 2015, 08:52:26 AM
The Indians catch some shit for their name and especially their logo, but it doesn't seem to be on the same level as the Redskins.  At least not yet. 

Because their name is not a blatant racial slur. Lucky bastards.

The slurs original name was the Braves. If only that had stuck.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: celedhring on July 02, 2015, 09:08:22 AM
What's wrong with the Braves? The Indians have a bad name and a horrible mascot, but to my ignorant knowledge the Braves look "fine".

Braves means military age Indian male.  If you don't like Indians you can't like Braves.

Syt

Quote from: Valmy on July 02, 2015, 09:08:55 AM
The slurs original name was the Braves. If only that had stuck.

"The Slurs" sounds like an awful team name.
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celedhring

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 02, 2015, 09:27:53 AM
Quote from: celedhring on July 02, 2015, 09:08:22 AM
What's wrong with the Braves? The Indians have a bad name and a horrible mascot, but to my ignorant knowledge the Braves look "fine".

Braves means military age Indian male.  If you don't like Indians you can't like Braves.

Yeah, I'm not that knowledgeable about the origin of the word. I dislike "Indian" because it's a misnomer born out of European ignorance.

It's not as bad as Redskins but still insensitive.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: celedhring on July 02, 2015, 09:34:27 AM
Yeah, I'm not that knowledgeable about the origin of the word. I dislike "Indian" because it's a misnomer born out of European ignorance.

It's not as bad as Redskins but still insensitive.

I'm surprised you haven't seen at least one western in which they talk about "many braves on the warpath."

Valmy

Quote from: Syt on July 02, 2015, 09:33:44 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 02, 2015, 09:08:55 AM
The slurs original name was the Braves. If only that had stuck.

"The Slurs" sounds like an awful team name.

Maybe but it would get my beloved franchise in less trouble than its actual name :P
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Quote from: celedhring on July 02, 2015, 09:34:27 AM
I dislike "Indian" because it's a misnomer born out of European ignorance.

Eh it was just one stubborn guy. But it stuck for some reason, long after Europeans ceased to be ignorant on this point. I guess nobody anticipated the day when there would be more actual Indians in Texas than Native Americans.
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celedhring

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 02, 2015, 09:35:55 AM
Quote from: celedhring on July 02, 2015, 09:34:27 AM
Yeah, I'm not that knowledgeable about the origin of the word. I dislike "Indian" because it's a misnomer born out of European ignorance.

It's not as bad as Redskins but still insensitive.

I'm surprised you haven't seen at least one western in which they talk about "many braves on the warpath."

Most classic westerns I have watched, I have watched them in Spanish.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: celedhring on July 02, 2015, 09:47:14 AM
Most classic westerns I have watched, I have watched them in Spanish.

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celedhring

Quote from: Valmy on July 02, 2015, 09:37:29 AM
Quote from: celedhring on July 02, 2015, 09:34:27 AM
I dislike "Indian" because it's a misnomer born out of European ignorance.

Eh it was just one stubborn guy. But it stuck for some reason, long after Europeans ceased to be ignorant on this point. I guess nobody anticipated the day when there would be more actual Indians in Texas than Native Americans.

We tried to pretend we knew we were doing all along by calling America "The West Indies" as opposed to the "East Indies".

Valmy

Probably also Columbus' fault. His ability to see what he wanted to be true rather than what the actual evidence suggested infuriated the Portuguese so much they just let him go back to Spain after they nabbed him in the Azores. If it was difficult for them to deal with I can only imagine what it was like for the Caribbean natives and his poor crew.
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DontSayBanana

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 02, 2015, 08:56:16 AM
It helps that Chief Yahoo is so somber and impressive looking.  And that his name is so historically correct.

Chief Wahoo. :contract:

But yeah, we've got the Redskins with "Chief Zee," who's basically the equivalent of a blackface actor (the model was an African guy who dressed up as a Native American).

On the other hand, we've got the Cleveland Indians.  While the name is slightly less of a slur, the mascot in their logo is something straight out of one of the banned Looney Tunes cartoons from the 1930s and '40s.
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Admiral Yi

You talking about the black fan who comes to the games dressed up?  I don't see what that has to do with anything.