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Started by jimmy olsen, January 26, 2014, 08:41:25 PM

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Valmy

Quote from: Hansmeister on November 06, 2014, 10:36:11 PM
Of course the threat was that Hussein might give it to a group like al Qaeda to use in a terrorist attack.  You don't think that wouldn't have been a threat?

Not really.  I mean sure in a theoretical sense but if Hussein gave al Qaeda conventional warheads that would be no less dangerous.  Chemical Weapons are certainly unpleasant but they are no more destructive than regular weapons.  They are certainly much harder to use on top of that.  Hell they probably would have posed a much larger threat to untrained al Qaeda stooges who tried to use them than us.  So I would be more concerned about large stocks of TNT personally.

QuoteAfter the fall of Afghanistan the surviving al Qaeda members were streaming into Iraq to set up shop there.  Indeed, the next big al Qaeda plot foiled after 9-11 was an attempt to youse ricin poison in London and Paris, a plot that was hatched by al Qaeda in Iraq.

I'm sure it was pure coincidence that the U.S. found large quantities of castor beans(used to make ricin) in Iraqi ammo bunkers.

Lots of things can be used to make lots of stuff.  Were any other sorts of beans or bean-related products found?

QuoteBut I'm sure it was all because Hussein just didn't have any real control over what was goin on in Iraq, him being known for his laissez faire government principles.  Saddam Husein was really kind of a proto-liberatarian who didn't reall keep close tabs on what went on in his country, the poor sap.

Actually it was because he was a proto-Antidisestablishmentarian.

QuoteA lot of conservatives wondered why Bush never fought back on this issue, but I know that he understood that the Democrats will just keep changing their rationale since they weren't interested in an honest debate, so there was no point to argue.

Yes lets pretend the fact your points are idiotic and you have nothing is because of mean old Democrats.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Hansmeister

Quote from: Valmy on November 06, 2014, 11:13:09 PM
QuoteAfter the fall of Afghanistan the surviving al Qaeda members were streaming into Iraq to set up shop there.  Indeed, the next big al Qaeda plot foiled after 9-11 was an attempt to youse ricin poison in London and Paris, a plot that was hatched by al Qaeda in Iraq.

I'm sure it was pure coincidence that the U.S. found large quantities of castor beans(used to make ricin) in Iraqi ammo bunkers.

You do know that castor beans are not actually beans and are not edible, are tightly controlled in trade since they are very dangerous and only castor oil derived from it is useful in for some industrial products such as nylons, perfume, and soap.  I'm sure the Iraqi military was storing castor beans in heavily protected ammo bunkers because they were trying to get into the nylons business.

The Minsky Moment

You know who has chemical weapons? Assad
You know who is using them?  Right now?  Assad
You know who doesn't give a shit?  Pretty much everyone. 

Oh except ISIS.
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--Joan Robinson

garbon

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 07, 2014, 12:36:27 AM
You know who has chemical weapons? Assad
You know who is using them?  Right now?  Assad
You know who doesn't give a shit?  Pretty much everyone. 

Oh except ISIS.

Well Obama drew a line.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

The Minsky Moment

It will certainly not be remembered as one the finest moments in 21st century American foreign policy.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

PJL

The only way Sadddam would have given Al Quaeda chemical weapons would have been from exploding artillery shells onto the terrorists.

derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 06, 2014, 09:18:19 PM
Didn't hurt Jim Webb. One. Damned. Bit.

How about Web Hubbell?  OH YEAH I WENT THERE
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derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 06, 2014, 09:42:12 PM
You're dealing with a despotic government that was a mess of organizational structure with a rank hierarchy operating on a basis of fear and corruption.

But enough about the Obama Administration.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Jacob

Quote from: Hansmeister on November 06, 2014, 09:22:35 PM
Say, weren't the exchanges supposed to open on OCT 1?  Why are they now suddenly not opening until next week, contrary to the law?

Because the implementation has been undermined and sabotaged at every turn in most Republican held states? As I understand it, the exchanges are working well enough in states - Republican and Democrat held - where they implemented the ACA in anything resembling good faith.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on November 07, 2014, 10:00:15 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 06, 2014, 09:42:12 PM
You're dealing with a despotic government that was a mess of organizational structure with a rank hierarchy operating on a basis of fear and corruption.

But enough about the Obama Administration.

Is this erection going to last until the 2016 primary season, or just until January?

derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 07, 2014, 10:32:39 AM
Quote from: derspiess on November 07, 2014, 10:00:15 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 06, 2014, 09:42:12 PM
You're dealing with a despotic government that was a mess of organizational structure with a rank hierarchy operating on a basis of fear and corruption.

But enough about the Obama Administration.

Is this erection going to last until the 2016 primary season, or just until January?

I'll let you know.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Hansmeister

Quote from: Jacob on November 07, 2014, 10:29:42 AM
Quote from: Hansmeister on November 06, 2014, 09:22:35 PM
Say, weren't the exchanges supposed to open on OCT 1?  Why are they now suddenly not opening until next week, contrary to the law?

Because the implementation has been undermined and sabotaged at every turn in most Republican held states? As I understand it, the exchanges are working well enough in states - Republican and Democrat held - where they implemented the ACA in anything resembling good faith.

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

You so funny, the reason the obamacare website doesn't wo is because the GOP isn't fixing it for him?  :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

So why the delay of reopening the website for this enrollment periods until after the election? Why the delay on the decision on amnesty for illegal aliens until after the election?  Why the delay on keystone pipeline until after the election?

Yeah, it's all bad news for the party of incompetence and corruption so they wanted to put it off as long as possible.

The Minsky Moment

Delaying the Keystone pipeline probably had little effect on ACA state exchanges. :hmm:
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--Joan Robinson

Admiral Yi

So you concede it affected amnesty for illegals.  :ph34r:

derspiess

So what did Obama mean when he said this:

QuoteObama: 'To everyone who voted, I want you to know that I hear you. To the two-thirds of voters who chose not to [vote], I hear you, too.'
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall