Is Roger Waters an anti-Semite

[Josephus]

My favourite rock star in the world has been accused of crass anti-Semitism of late. He has taken the lead in the  BDS movement against Israel (Boycott and Divestment Sanctions) and has become more and more outspoken. He argues, of course, that just because he criticizes Israeli handling of the Palestinians, does not make him an anti Semite. And I agree. But then he also says stuff like "some of my best friends are jews"  .   Lately though he says stuff just to cause shit. I mean comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is bound to be controversial. Still not anti semitic, though.

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/dec/14/pink-floyd-frontman-fury-israel-nazis

[Neil]

No, he's not an anti-semite.  He's a naive and foolish intellectual lightweight, but I don't think he's especially prejudiced against Jews.

[Ideologue]

I thought he was trained not to spit on the fan.

[Admiral Yi]

No, he's not an anti-semite.  He's a naive and foolish intellectual lightweight, but I don't think he's especially prejudiced against Jews.

Agreed.

Also cracks me up that his antagonists in the article say how awful he is for comparing the occupation of the West Bank to the Holocaust, when Roger made no such comparison.

[Josephus]

I thought he was trained not to spit on the fan.

I thought he was only a stranger at home

[CountDeMoney]

At his age, he's allowed to say anything he wants.  All the elderly do.

[Siege]

Anti-Semite. Whether consciously or not might be up for debate, but diffinitively anti-Semite.

When you blame an entire democratic society made of all kind of people of all ethnic, economic, social, and political spectrum, then you are an anti-Semite.

[Neil]

Anti-Semite. Whether consciously or not might be up for debate, but diffinitively anti-Semite.

When you blame an entire democratic society made of all kind of people of all ethnic, economic, social, and political spectrum, then you are an anti-Semite.

I don't think you're able to effectively judge who is and isn't an anti-semite.  Besides, when a country does an evil thing, you're allowed to condemn that country, even if there are all sorts of people in that country.

[Admiral Yi]

When you blame an entire democratic society made of all kind of people of all ethnic, economic, social, and political spectrum, then you are an anti-Semite.

This makes no sense Seeb.  Democratic societies get criticized all the time for their policy choices.  For example you think keeping Jonathan Pollard in prison is a bad decision.

[Viking]

Anti-Semite. Whether consciously or not might be up for debate, but diffinitively anti-Semite.

When you blame an entire democratic society made of all kind of people of all ethnic, economic, social, and political spectrum, then you are an anti-Semite.

I don't think you're able to effectively judge who is and isn't an anti-semite.  Besides, when a country does an evil thing, you're allowed to condemn that country, even if there are all sorts of people in that country.

Traditionally the 3D test is used to distinguish "legitimate criticism" from anti-semitism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_Test_of_Antisemitism

however, a flying balloon of a pig with stars of david painted on it sort of cries to be identified as anti-semitic

[Ideologue]

Is denial of the right of self-determination really anti-Semitic?  What if I don't believe in any ethnicity's right to self-determination?  If I think Scotland should be depopulated and recolonized by the Children of Josq in the event they attempt to leave the UK, does that make me anti-Semitic?  Seems like a reach.

[Viking]

Is denial of the right of self-determination really anti-Semitic?  What if I don't believe in any ethnicity's right to self-determination?  If I think Scotland should be depopulated and recolonized by the Children of Josq in the event they attempt to leave the UK, does that make me anti-Semitic?  Seems like a reach.

Wilson's 14 points in general

but, specifically, Israel already exists, and in the case of this conflict those who are trying to deligitimize the state of israel are almost universally attmpting to replace it with a state asserting another people's right to self determination.

[Admiral Yi]

Are you suggesting Waters is trying to deligimitimize the state of Israel?  Seems to me he's only criticizing their policies towards Palestinians.

[Viking]

Are you suggesting Waters is trying to deligimitimize the state of Israel?  Seems to me he's only criticizing their policies towards Palestinians.

Did I suggest that? I referred to the test and then suggested, independently of the test, that the flying j00 pig balloon might signify anti-semitism.

[Admiral Yi]

Did I suggest that? I referred to the test and then suggested, independently of the test, that the flying j00 pig balloon might signify anti-semitism.

I was wondering who you were referring to when you said "those who are trying to deligitimize Israel."