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The US-Canada Merger Plebiscite

Started by Admiral Yi, December 08, 2013, 07:03:53 PM

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I'm American, Vote Yes
22 (39.3%)
I'm American, Vote No
10 (17.9%)
I'm Canadian, Vote Yes
2 (3.6%)
I'm Canadian, Vote No
10 (17.9%)
I'm Neither, Fuck This Poll
12 (21.4%)

Total Members Voted: 56

Eddie Teach

So let me get this straight. London resembles an American colony, but only to the extent that its inhabitants don't vote for Labour?  :hmm:
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Josquius

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 09, 2013, 01:31:40 AM
So let me get this straight. London resembles an American colony, but only to the extent that its inhabitants don't vote for Labour?  :hmm:
No, there's more to it than that. Conservatives in the shires are thoroughly un-American.
Voting labour, especially as a tradition held over from the truly socialist days, does make the idea that somewhere is more American than European look a bit iffy though.
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Valmy

Quote from: Tyr on December 09, 2013, 01:19:44 AM
London is a bit of an American colony in Europe, that much is true, but overall the UK has far, far more in common with the Netherlands for example than it does the US.

LOL.  If you say so.  I get you hate London but that is just taking it too far.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Admiral Yi

Whenever I read a Squeezepost concerning the US I'm inclined to think Edward Said was on to something.

Josquius

Quote from: Valmy on December 09, 2013, 01:36:49 AM
Quote from: Tyr on December 09, 2013, 01:19:44 AM
London is a bit of an American colony in Europe, that much is true, but overall the UK has far, far more in common with the Netherlands for example than it does the US.

LOL.  If you say so.  I get you hate London but that is just taking it too far.
:huh:
London is a bit more American than the rest of the country is going too far and hating London?
I'm not exactly saying anything novel here, it is well observed both by people fond of London and those who don't like it.
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Ideologue

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 09, 2013, 01:38:03 AM
Whenever I read a Squeezepost concerning the US I'm inclined to think Edward Said was on to something.

Throwing rocks at Israelis?  Siring one of my stupidest, awkwardest, most unable-to-teach law professors?
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Ideologue on December 09, 2013, 01:42:23 AM
Throwing rocks at Israelis?  Siring one of my stupidest, awkwardest, most unable-to-teach law professors?

Cold, cold.

Ideologue

They were rhetorical questions.  I don't know what you mean.  Stop hiding behind your pop culture references.
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Admiral Yi

Said's claim to fame is "Orientalism," in which he laid out the the thesis that the West has seen Asia not as how it actually is, but as a construct that affirms the West's sense of self.

Valmy

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Quote from: Tyr on December 09, 2013, 01:42:17 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 09, 2013, 01:36:49 AM
Quote from: Tyr on December 09, 2013, 01:19:44 AM
London is a bit of an American colony in Europe, that much is true, but overall the UK has far, far more in common with the Netherlands for example than it does the US.

LOL.  If you say so.  I get you hate London but that is just taking it too far.
:huh:
London is a bit more American than the rest of the country is going too far and hating London?
I'm not exactly saying anything novel here, it is well observed both by people fond of London and those who don't like it.

London is loaded with people from all over the world.  It is a huge international city.  It is like other huge international cities.  Say what you want about America but New York is not a typical place.  America is not crammed with hundreds of thousands of Indians and Eastern Europeans and Africans as a standard. 

I was just kidding with you about using 'American' as an insult to London.

On the other hand I guess I would have to hear in what ways it is American.  Do the inhabitants enjoy American Football?  Do they have a thriving recreational gun culture?  Does much of the population live in a suburb with a large yard and own at least two cars a family?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 09, 2013, 01:49:26 AM
Said's claim to fame is "Orientalism," in which he laid out the the thesis that the West has seen Asia not as how it actually is, but as a construct that affirms the West's sense of self.

Asia pretty much does the same to us.  They love European stuff and I sometimes get a giggle at how Japanese video games views European history and Americans.   I mean we have Chinese bureaucrats building miniature Versaillles and so forth.  It is kind of hard for such different cultures to really get their heads around how the other works.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Josquius

#41
Quote from: Valmy on December 09, 2013, 01:49:36 AM
London is loaded with people from all over the world.  It is a huge international city.  It is like other huge international cities.  Say what you want about America but New York is not a typical place.  America is not crammed with hundreds of thousands of Indians and Eastern Europeans and Africans as a standard. 

I was just kidding with you about using 'American' as an insult to London.

On the other hand I guess I would have to hear in what ways it is American.  Do the inhabitants enjoy American Football?  Do they have a thriving recreational gun culture?  Does much of the population live in a suburb with a large yard and own at least two cars a family?
Cut-throat liberalism is the big one.
Having a shit-tonne of Americans helps too.
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Valmy

Quote from: Tyr on December 09, 2013, 02:13:03 AM
Cut-throat liberalism is the big one.

That is called being a major international city trying to compete with others for prestige and power.  Oh and being a major financial center.  By that logic Hong Kong and Tokyo are American.

I am not sure how we are more "cut throat", you are the guys who refuse to build homes that lower middle class and poor people can afford.  That sounds pretty brutal to me.  At least we give people places to live.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Sophie Scholl

American.  No.  I'd rather like to move to Canada and live there some day without having to have the United States tag along. :Canuck:
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Camerus

Quote from: Syt on December 08, 2013, 11:50:51 PM
What is the merger scenario? Canada joining the U.S. or the U.S. joining Canada? In the former case I don't see what's in it for Canadians. In the latter case I'm not sure all U.S. states are ready for the ascension.

This.