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Ukraine's European Revolution?

Started by Sheilbh, December 03, 2013, 07:39:37 AM

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celedhring

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Quote from: The Larch on March 16, 2014, 08:22:05 AM
Quote from: celedhring on March 16, 2014, 08:17:50 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on March 16, 2014, 08:06:46 AM
QuoteState news agency Interfax is quoting observer Enrique Ravello, a well-known nationalist deputy in Spain's parliament, as saying he's seen an "unprecedented turnout" in Crimea ...

He seems to be some kind of weird Catalan pan-European neo-nazi. He was a member of CEDADE and recently was (or is) in charge of foreign relations of something called Plataforma por Catalunya (PxC), which managed to get a whopping five thousand votes in the Catalan elections (that's 0.1% of the voters).

Aye, PxC is a far right Catalan party. Virulently anti-immigration, anti-Europe, etc...

Weirdly they are anti-Catalan independence too, so there's some cognitive dissonance at work if they are supporting this.

Apparently this particular guy was kicked out of the party for being a separatist.

Aye, just found his blog, and he left the party barely a month ago because of being a separatist.

It also looks like he's never been anywhere the Parliament.

grumbler

Quote from: Syt on March 16, 2014, 06:48:25 AM
Languish challenge: write a nutjob conspiracy op-ed and try to get it posted on english.pravda.ru!
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OttoVonBismarck

Quote from: alfred russel on March 16, 2014, 12:02:57 AM
I have a tough time taking FP seriously on this topic after the Palin debacle. Did FP ever respond to that?

Well it's an op-ed, so it's more about the individual writer not the publication itself. Most of these op-eds aren't even written by employees of the paper/magazine itself these days.

alfred russel

Quote from: Iormlund on March 16, 2014, 08:30:12 AM
Apparently the Russians are introducing this dude as a Spanish MP from Catalonia. :lol:

Well, he is Spanish, and he is from Catalonia...for a country that can't identify its own troops, I'd say this description should pass as dead on balls accurate for them.  :P
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Syt

From BBC:

QuoteIn a polemic on Russian strength and American weakness, Dmitriy Kiselev, the outspoken presenter of the "Vesti Nedeli" weekly news roundup on official state channel Rossiya 1, boasted: "Russia is the only country in the world that is genuinely capable of turning the United States into radioactive ash."
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Viking

Quote from: Syt on March 16, 2014, 02:09:34 PM
From BBC:

QuoteIn a polemic on Russian strength and American weakness, Dmitriy Kiselev, the outspoken presenter of the "Vesti Nedeli" weekly news roundup on official state channel Rossiya 1, boasted: "Russia is the only country in the world that is genuinely capable of turning the United States into radioactive ash."

I'm reasonably certain that the US is capable of doing the same thing.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

DGuller

So far the results are that 95% of the voters are for joining Russia.  I have to say that I may have been wrong about the whole thing, it sounds like Crimeans really, really want to join Russia.

The Brain

Russia isn't being gobbled up by an aggressive neighbor.
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Capetan Mihali

Quote from: Viking on March 16, 2014, 03:02:37 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 16, 2014, 02:09:34 PM
From BBC:

QuoteIn a polemic on Russian strength and American weakness, Dmitriy Kiselev, the outspoken presenter of the "Vesti Nedeli" weekly news roundup on official state channel Rossiya 1, boasted: "Russia is the only country in the world that is genuinely capable of turning the United States into radioactive ash."

I'm reasonably certain that the US is capable of doing the same thing.
:D

Quote from: The Brain on March 16, 2014, 04:08:17 PM
Russia isn't being gobbled up by an aggressive neighbor.
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Razgovory

Quote from: DGuller on March 16, 2014, 04:05:31 PM
So far the results are that 95% of the voters are for joining Russia.  I have to say that I may have been wrong about the whole thing, it sounds like Crimeans really, really want to join Russia.

On the news Isaw 95.5% for joining Russia, 4.5% voted in favor of having Russian soldiers come to their home and beat them.
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OttoVonBismarck

Incorrect as well, China has quietly been building a much more robust nuclear capability than they had for many years. I'd say in the next 10 years they could be at parity with Russia or the United States, especially if we continue to decrease our stockpile. They already have enough capability to reduce the U.S. to nuclear wasteland.

Razgovory

  Looks like they are coming for DG.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Sheilbh

Quote from: Syt on March 16, 2014, 01:27:26 AM
Austrian tabloid news site oe24.at says invitations also went to the French Front National, the Belgian Vlaams Blok, the Italian Lega Nord, the British National Party ...
In the old days this would've lead to another 60 pages of Flems explaining why Vlaams Blok aren't that racist and, anyway, everyone knows Crimea's the fault of the Walloons.
Let's bomb Russia!

alfred russel

Quote from: DGuller on March 16, 2014, 04:05:31 PM
So far the results are that 95% of the voters are for joining Russia.  I have to say that I may have been wrong about the whole thing, it sounds like Crimeans really, really want to join Russia.

Remember Spellus and some other posters saying that there were sizable numbers of Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars that would not be happy about annexation? Boy I bet they feel silly now.  :P :glare:
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Queequeg

Crimea is like 10% Tatar.  They are seriously massively overblown in the media.  It's nuts.  Like they're all going to abandon 300 years of Jadidism and embrace Wahhabism at the drop of a fucking hat. 
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